I am still out of town on personal business but I’m checking in because I’m devoted to my job. I’m in Salt Lake City and numerous people asked me about Memphis today. They didn’t ask about Beale or BBQ, they asked about murder. The Lester incident is getting national attention to the extreme violence in our city. It’s not that it doesn’t happen elsewhere but how much it happens in Memphis. It’s sad. Salt Lake seems to be the opposite of Memphis, low crime, beautiful clean downtown, nice wide and well planned interstates. Can you believe I’ve been waiting winter to see some snow and I come here and there’s nothing yet you got some in Memphis.
On a side note, I’m really annoyed that many of you can find nothing better to “Rant” about than calling each other racist terms and just plain being offensive. “The Rant!” is designed for intelligent conversation that is open to a point. Please think before you type, it’s easy to hide behind a keyboard. To those of you who have been responsible, thank you.
Im quite annoyed that I tried to post a very considerate post regarding recent bloggers comments, and indeed yours george, and it has not been allowed.
Very dissapointed!
I read on the Channel 3 website that it is someone’s opinion that whoever is responsible for the murders on Lester Street “needs help”.
Yes, they do. Help in getting into a casket.
Randy,
I heard that comment and almost fell out of my recliner.
Most of the reporters and anchors have not a bit of common sense. They don’t even realize when they’ve uttered something unbelievably dumb.
It’s all they can do to read what is on the prompt. It’s a pitiful situation when that’s the best you have to offer. Remember, these dolts are supposed to be “talented professionals”.
American Way “Wal-Mart” to Close
The Wal-Mart store, located at 5000 American Way, will not renew its lease and is tentatively set to close by May 9, 2008.
The exodus of decent people, upscale and big box retail continues. One after another … mall closings too. Northgate, Southgate, Raleigh Springs, Mall of Memphis, Hickory Ridge … WalMarts, Targets, Dillards, Goldsmiths, etc …
Leaving the former “city of good abode” for a safer and more promising place to live and do business.
Soon, mayor bill, … very soon, you will have your 90%+ chocolate city. I hope you enjoy it, and encourage your “real people” to stay within the limits and enjoy the self determined lifestyle.
Us vanillas want no part of it, thus … the exodus.
Thank God.
Now, since George said that Salt Lake is just the opposite of Memphis, does that mean it’s mostly white ? Wow, I can only imagine. That brings a big smile to my face.
Here’s your answer, Whitey.
Salt Lake City (city), Utah
Black or African American persons, percent, 2000 (a) 1.9% 0.8%
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/49/4967000.html
You know another thing to ponder on the Salt Lake City peaceful abode idea. I don’t agree with their “religion” but, I have to say this.
They are a faith built community, thus the peaceful setting.
That could be true for Memphis and other major cities along with small towns. Just practice faith in God and be moralistic again and get away from this immoral and unGodly living and then you find peace.
I love this one bumper sticker I saw once and had on my truck.
“No Jesus No peace, Know Jesus Know peace”
I’m glad to see George checking back in from Salt Lake City. Hurry back dude!
George,
It is so comforting to hear you say that you are devoted to your work and take full responsibility. I never wanted for a job my entire life up until I retired in 1990. I was always devoted to my job and my employer, however mundane or exciting it was, and thankful that I had a job to go to. Too many of this younger generation thinks the world owes them something
without any strings attached. There are no free rides for the lazy, it cost someone something.
I have thanked you before and I thank you again for the good job you are doing with the Rant.
Your biggest headache is trying to keep the Rant clean, respectful and interesting.
Attention Treehuggers & Al Gore Fans:
Listen to the following ….
John Coleman on Global Warming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R12Hx-e3aY
Weather Channel Founder Blasts Global Warming and Al Gore
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5a0wuQr9d70
Can anyone please tell me the guidelines for posting here? I have written a few posts, none of which were long or contained any hint of profanity or racism, yet none of them posted. This site also gives you no indication of why your post is rejected.
The only ones are ugly words or such. Try going through this link: http://wregblog.wordpress.com That may help you.
Aaaah, yes…only “blacks commit crimes”. So I guess that white “prophet” that was marrying children off to adults was just misunderstood. He’s currently on trial. Hmmm…
TJ, man, get a grip No one is saying blacks only commit crimes. Why don’t you take your chip off your shoulder and get on with life.
I’m sick of this crap
Reading some of the posts on this site would put a chip on the shoulder of most black people.
He was guilty as sin too. I don’t protect a white guy VS a black guy. A criminal is a criminal not because he is white or black. I don’t like those pervs selling or marrying off kids either. He should be hung by the scrotum.
I just think that some oflks on here have chips on their shoulders, including some of the whites.
Everyone needs to move on. Heck I need too. I gotta find a job or some contracts. This economy thingis killing me.
George, you should stay there. Better your life stay up North. I cant wait to get out of this black city. 52% black. Thats 2 much darkness for me.
At Proud:
Look at what “Fly in my Soup” said. It gets pretty infuriating to always hear something like that.
The rant is trulyt frustrating. Everytime I have something that I feel is imporatent to say, I can’t post it!!!
Im making Memfrica bumper stickers and shirts. Also Memfrica Tigers shirts. Lets march in front of the Memfrica court house. Memfrica city hall.
Well, I can see where you’re coming from.
Ive been having trouble posting too. There are certain words that are blocked , I believe unintentional , s.h.a.p.e. and m.a.s.s.a.c.r.e are two among many words blocked here. I think it’s just a glitch.
Top of the morning to ya TJ.
Oh TJ, try this link too.
http://wregblog.wordpress.com
OH, Hey Mr. Whitey. good mornin to you and TJ both!
“Aaaah, yes…only “blacks commit crimes”
YES, IN MEMPHIS, it is probably at least 98% of blacks committing the crimes, which is absolutely ruining this city. Get over your sensitivity to the truth TJ.
What do the Virginia Tech, Jonesboro, and all of the crimes committed by whites in other places have to do with THE CITY OF MEMPHIS, TJ???????????????????????????????????
Those people have to deal with the crimes in their cities. Memphians have to deal with the crimes committed in their city. What about this do you not understand?
Why don’t the people who are having problems just write your piece in a word processing program and then copy it into the Reply Box on The Rant?
I’m just curious because it is so unusal. What is Kuma? or does it mean or whatever? Sorry, I ask if I don’t know LOL
George, I visited SLC for the first time in 1989 and it was the first time in my life that I had ever seen so much snow at one time. I had great fun making snow angels!
That link don’t do the trick I just typed s.h.a.p.e. and it wouldn’t let me post
Kuma (熊, Kuma?) means “bear” in Japanese.
It is short for kumatage, which is a nautical term meaning a bright appearance in the horizon, under the sun or moon, arising from the reflected light of those bodies from the small rippling waves on the surface of the water.
P.S. I am a Navy veteran.
OOOOH ok, makes sense now. I just never heard the word. Mr. Whitey had a translation to for bear. Cool. Now I am complete for this day. I have learned something else LOL
Thanks!
Oh Mr. Whitey, I don’t know about it allowing certain words. I don’t think so. It does allow you to type longer. I do have problems from time to time if I get to long typer syndrome.
This common trend of senseless violence is a product of our enviroment and home training or lack there of,but it could be just plain evil.If our mayor is appointed by God then maybe he should have a talk with the man upstairs about this problem,its apparent he cant solve it.Memphis continues in its downward spiral and soon tourism will follow business with its exodus from King Willie coffers just like the people he suggested move.Its also time to build more jails and make people do the time and hold them really accountable for their actions.
I think “Kuma” is Croatian for stupid. That is not true, no matter how you slice it, you bigot. I huess Bruce Thompson is black. Or unfortunately, Jerry Tate’s son had to be black, didn’t he? No, blacks don’t commit 98% of crimes anywhere in America, including Memphis. If you’re so scared, why don’t you leave? It’s a crime for you to be breathing good air.
I did move from Memphis myself. I am happier out here in the COUNtry it sho is nice!
Its got nothing to do with the length, it’s certain words. Try posting with the two words I put above, without the periods of course. You’ll see.
TJ, just an observation here. Try not attcking a person personally and you might be able to further your conversations and opinion. It is called winning friends and influencing people. Try talking and not attacking. That is actually part of the Memphis problem. Attacks on a person’s character.
LoL TJ , You just won’t do LoL.
TJ, TJ, He’s our man . If he can’t do it no one can !
I’m not running for public office. You really want me to get arrested, don’t you, proud?
I’m sorry, I’m just in a loving , We are the World type mood today. I wish all of us on The Rant was sitting around a big campfire roasting marshmallows and singing Jimmy crack corn.
NO, I don’t know even what you mean by wanting you arrested. It is a simple suggestion that you talk to people not yell not attack. You see, I watch folks and the general consensus among black folks when they disagree is to yell and hollar over the opponent. NOW, before you call that racist or attack me think about my statement and the black folks you see attempting to debate with another person. It’s true correct?
Oh ya’ll, please don’t fight
Mr. Whitey, I treid typing thew words you said and yup, blocked the words.
Camprfie? Marshmallows? dang there goes the diet!
I’m trying to appeal to TJ’s human side, hopefully. I would whole lot rather debate than get into the name calling thing again. You know?
Proud, If you found out TJ got arrested, would you go bail him out ?
I’m just saying…last year wasn’t too good for those who held public office.
Next year ain’t looking to good either
No, you want to get on my case now Mr. Whitey? if so, for what?
I’m trying to say to you TJ. If you want respect, try giving it. There will be some who can’t give it and you may be that way, I don’t know. I may not get it from everyone. But, I can give respect if a person shows it. Novel thought there.
LoL , no
Fair enough….and I won’t run for public office anytime soon.
Is that like , do unto others?
You couldn’t do any worse than others.Black or white.You do have some backbone to ya. Thats a nice start.
It is probably good for no campaigning there TJ. It isn’t going to be a good year for either party. We have nothing in any of those left in the race to brag about. McCain is a liberal with a Republican ticket and wellll, I won’t say anything else about the democratic ticket except for NOTHING! there.
TJ picks about 10 white Memphians who committed crimes to attempt to prove his point! Like I said before TJ, the majority of the crimes committed in Memphis are perpetrated by black people.
Calling me stupid, bigot, racist, ugly will not change that FACT. But it, once again, proves to me that you are extremely sensitive to the truth and are in denial.
The truth will set you free.
OK i’m going to the park. I hope those retched white folk don’t get me.
C-Ya
Well, now TJ. He does have a good point. You stand your ground LOL
“McCain is a liberal with a Republican ticket”
And for this reason is why there will be many, many Democrats who are going to crossover and vote for him and why he will win the seat of the President of these great United States!
OK, Mr. Whitey watch the wild crackers out there and don’t piss ‘em off.
I’m actually going to vote for McCain myself simply to counter the dems. I do hope that he gets it over the rest of the choices. I was and am a HUckaby man myself. Was very sorry to see him drop out.
Calling you stupid proves a fact as well. You are stupid, and quoting a statistic like that does not help your claim. I am a criminologist, and I can say with complete certainty that, although blacks commit a great number of crimes in this area, 98% is way off base…you blithering idiot.
Melissa Moon, WREG.com, July 19, 2006
Black On Black Crime Growing In Memphis
Memphis—It’s a subject most people don’t like to talk about, but many in the African American community say black on black crime in Memphis is out of control.
“I hate to hear breaking news cause I always think who got killed this time,” said Hickory Hill homeowner Freddie Askew.
What angers Freddie Askew even more is that the number of African American victims keeps piling up.
“Jim Crow didn’t destroy us, racism didn’t destroy us, it is us destroying us,” said Askew.
Already this year, Memphis has seen 91 homicides. A breakdown shows 89% of the victims are Black. And 84% of those accused of murdering the men, women and children, are also African American. 96% of the suspects are male.
“We’re just as upset as anybody. I mean it angers me,” said Memphis NAACP Executive Director Johnnie Turner.
Turner says what’s happening is the destruction of a race that took decades to build up. And it’s this senseless destruction that makes it hard for the NAACP to fulfill it’s goals in the black community.
I have just been informed the monsters that murdered those people on Lester are now maiking death threats to the staff at LeBonheur. What are we going to do, memphis?
Did anybody else notice on the news last night that the neighbors of the slain family that were interviewed all claimed to have heard shots but not one of them picked up the phone to call police. I would have been ashamed to let anybody know that I was that cowardly and ignorant let alone broadcast it to the entire nation. People in other cities are doing more than just talking about Memphis, They are wondering why a wall hasn’t been built around it….
If this keeps up, I’ll be willing to buy the bricks…
Dang TJ, Are you serious ? I know someone who works at a hospital and they told of the horrific stuff done to a woman and a child in that house. I can’t mention it here but , I’ve never heard of anything like it in my life. Not even from the Middle East.
Spy,
They said they heard shots and didn’t call the police because it is the usual thing in that community to hear shots every day. Then they said when they DO call no one ever responds. Thats a crime in itself.
TJ
I agree with Proud. I don’t live in Memphis, but pretty close to where George is. But I am from Memphis and I am concerned because my mother and father lives there.
All of us need to stop attacking each other. True that, everone has an opinion, but we don’t have to attack in making a point.
Look at it like this, I will not attack you unless I feel that you are attacking me. Proud is not an attacker, nor is he attacking you. We have to express ourselves as intellegent human beings.
Now, ask Proud, if I feel attacked, I am coming after you. But, we can agree to disagree without the name calling and the racial slurs.
What “racial slur” have I used?
TJ, you can start by stopping the childish name calling when someone says something that you don’t agree with.
What “childish name” have I used? Then too, when you start trying to use racial statistics, that is an attack, not a “difference of opinion”.
I did not say that YOU used a racial slur. I am talking in general. Man, get of the offense. I am not pressing you. I am just saying that to have a conversation, you do not have to attack. It is all about conversation. But you did call someone stupid. So what makes that any differnce? I am a black man.
Then what makes you better than the person that gave the racial stats? Some things in life are not worth getting into. Pick and choose your battles. You seem intellegent. Don’t let others bring down your IQ.
I am a fighter by nature…and I am so angry about the recent chain of events on Lester.
If TJ disagrees with the racial statistic on black crime in Memphis (not an attack but a fact) and he states that he KNOWS that the actual number is, then why doesn’t TJ prove Kuma wrong?
“when you start trying to use racial statistics, that is an attack, not a “difference of opinion”.” tj
Exactly what I thought…you give him FACTS and he takes it personally. Hey TJ, writing FACTS IS NOT an ATTACK…it is the TRUTH.
Like I said before, you need to shuck off that sensitivity apron you are wearing.
TJ – You should be angry at the entire situation. Read the post above, a report by reporter Mellisa Moon. In that report: “We’re just as upset as anybody. I mean it angers me,” said Memphis NAACP Executive Director Johnnie Turner.
Turner says what’s happening is the destruction of a race that took decades to build up. And it’s this senseless destruction that makes it hard for the NAACP to fulfill it’s goals in the black community
Theres what you should focus on, and yes, it’s your race, not mine.
At stupid:
You misread what I was saying, you empty headed buffoon. What you stated is not “fact”; it is a misrepresentation and an outright lie. And, tell your father to take his apron off, you self-righteous bigot.
And, I’m not talking about the “Kiss the Cook” apron; I’m talking about the pink one he wears all the time.
“I am so angry about the recent chain of events on Lester.”
Recent chain of events? It is ONE EVENT of many that is occurring in Memphis. Were you not angry about the other crimes that are continually being committed?
The above was for that idiot “Kuma” and all other bigots not properly trained in statictics.
That’s none of your concern. I just wish one of the crime victims was you.
In the past week the black population has gone from 52 to 50! Its 50/50. We are making a come back. Thanks black on black crime!
TJ,
1. You disagree with the statisics.
2. You claim to be a criminologist who knows the REAL number.
So why don’t you?
Why don’t I what, you blithering idiot? Why don’t you die?
“I just wish one of the crime victims was you.” TJ
Hurt feelings, immaturity call names and wishes harm to others who disagree with them.
Intelligence speaks facts without degrading others.
LOLOL! Score another point for Kuma!!!
Who’s keeping score? You’re too stupid to know when you’re being insulted?! Score all the points you want. You still lose. Stupid.
TJ stated: “I am a criminologist, and I can say with complete certainty that, although blacks commit a great number of crimes in this area, 98% is way off base…you blithering idiot.”
Kuma asked: Please state the correct number.
TJ stated: “Why don’t I what, you blithering idiot? Why don’t you die?”
DO YOU HAVE COMPREHENSION PROBLEMS? STATE THE CORRECT NUMBER TJ!
If you are unable to dispute it, then 98% will have to stand.
Telling people they are stupid, bigoted, ugly, fat, buffoon, and wishing them death WILL NOT win any argument here Teeeee Jaaaaay.
LOL!
Hey TJ,
Look at it this way …
Try to imagine how low the crime rate in Shelby County would be if blacks commited crimes at the same frequency whites commit crimes, ok? …. Especially, violent crimes.
Can you do that?
Here’s another way to look at it … what would 201 Poplar look like if there were the same number of blacks in the jail, or the courts, as there are whites. You may get lonesome there, if that happened.
Think about it, before you say something really “off the charts” dumb, ok?
You’re too immature to realize that your insults aren’t sticking and will not intimidate or scare me off from SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!!
Score another for the Kuma!
Hey TJ
No used to fighting people like Anonymous. He will bring down your IQ in a drop of a dime.
Hey Anonymous,
Since you have all the solutions on Black on Black Crime, tell me this. What are you doing about it. Let me answer that for you. Nothing. You just sit in your house and you complain and complain.
Since you are a superior person (I won’t bring race into it because I know some decent Caucasions)what should be done. I want to see if you can put an intellegent thought together to come up with a good solution.
See TJ, now, if he/she does not answer in a intellegent manner, I will disregard him and find someone like you or Proud to talk to.
Seems to me that it’s a little bit of overkill on the banned words. M*A*S*S*A*C*R*E and M*A*D*R*A*S*S*A both have a dirty little word buried inside. Isn’t there a way to eliminate just the dirty words without banning longer words that contain those smaller words within?
Other banned words:
P*A*S*S*A*G*E
A*S*S*E*R*T
C*A*S*S*E*R*O*L*E
G*A*S*S*Y
L*A*S*S*O
Anyway, I’m sure you get the point. There are many legitimate words that are banned.
But what bugs me most is that Webpress gives you no indication whatsoever about which part of your post it finds objectionable. You could easily correct your post if you had any indication about what needed to be changed. And I’m sure there are many people like me who’ve have something pertinent to add to the conversation (without any vulgarity) but give up when Webpress keeps omitting post after post for no good, obvious reason.
“Speaking the truth”? HAHAHAHAHAHA! According to whom, the Klan? You’re dumber than I thought.
Don’t try it, PEB. He/She/It couldn’t spell “anonymous” so coherent thought is completely out og the question. That also goes for the clown who can only spell his name 4 letter at a time.
Hey Fly on the Wall:
I live in Denver, Colorado. A predomatly white city. A major city (unlike Memphis).
Tell me something? You talk about the crime rate in Memphis and you say that it is (and I paraphrase) it is the black community that commit the crimes.
You make is sound like Caucasions are not committing crimes. Now I live in a predomitaly Caucasion city and most of the crime is commited by Caucasions. Do you think that you are better than anyother Caucasion in the United States?
The shoe is on the other foot in Denver. I could say that at least 75% of the crime is commited by Caucasions. What makes the Caucasion people in Memphis better than the ones out here in Denver?
Remember be creative and put some thought into it…Not only to Fly on the Wall, but to Mr Whitey, Anonomus, The Fonz, anybody please answer me!
PEB,
In 2007 Memphis recorded 160+ murders. Two (2) were committed by whites.
You do the math, ok?
PEB,
No one is saying whites don’t commit crimes.
What is being said … blacks commit crimes at a much, much higher rate than whites.
Shelby County is about 50/50, black/white. The jails and the courtrooms are about 95/5.
Not that everyone identifies their race and gender on here, but I don’t recall seeing comments from any black females. Diversity in race, gender, age, education, background, etc. will go a long way toward some constructive conversations on this blog.
PEB,
That would make some sense, since Blacks are only 11% of Denver’s population. It still has blacks commiting crimes at a rate more than 2.5x the white rate.
People QuickFacts Denver Colorado
Black or African American persons, percent, 2000 (a) 11.1% 3.8%
next ….
That’s not true, Lie on the Wall. As soon as this program will allow me, I’ll present the facts from the Uniform Crime Report.
I’m also sure that if you investigate you will find a strong correlation between crime and economic c*l*a*s*s, regardless of race. What percentage of white people in Memphis live below the poverty line? What percentage of black people? How many people who live above the poverty line commit crimes in this city?
Found another legitimate word WordPress doesn’t like: C*L*A*S*S
PEB say:
“What makes the Caucasion people in Memphis better than the ones out here in Denver?”
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I believe the more appropriate question is: “What makes the blacks in Memphis more criminally prone”?
I suspect, if one had all the stats, the blacks in Denver are commiting crimes at a much, much higher rate than the whites. In fact, I’d bet on it … a whole lot of money, too!
You guys can sit here and argue about statistics all you want . No , blacks aren’t doing all the crime , not 98%, not 80%, but its somewhere around 62%, I’m not really keeping score. But,here in Memphis, they are doing not only the majority of it, they are also doing the most violent of it. If that make me a racist for saying that then I’ll just have to live with it. I think it makes me a realist.Did whites kill that family? Are whites doing the home invasions? Did that WHITE woman in Bartlett yesterday go back in her home from working in the yard to find a white man stealing and knock her to the floor and broke her wrist? Did a white man r.a.p.e. that boy in school last week? The answer to all that is NO. But, A white man did r.a.p.e. his own two daughters up in Tipton County last week. You got to admit, I’m fair.
FYI….tHE WORD r.a.p.e. will not post either.
I agree, Lady Tiger. But then too, Lie on the Wall, I have a question: How many children were molested in Memphis, and who is most responsible for that crime?
“Hey Anonymous, Since you have all the solutions on Black on Black Crime, tell me this. What are you doing about it. Let me answer that for you. Nothing. You just sit in your house and you complain and complain. ” PEB
Where did I state that I have all of the solutions? You won’t be able to find it because I didn’t say it. So I would appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. Thank you.
I personally can’t do a thing about black on black crime. All that I can suggest is that for law-abiding black and white people to enact a zero tolerance policy for their own households and neighborhoods.
This means that if you see a crime being committed, call the police. Be prepared to follow through and go to court and testify so that justice can be carried out.
This means that you go through your children’s belongings every single day and see what they are doing. If they are part of the crime problem, then you need to show some tough love and report them to the authorities.
This means that if they talk back and disrespect you and other adults, then sit them down and let them know that the behavior will not be tolerated.
This means to stop being afraid and stand up and face the problem head on.
Here you go, TJ … I’ll be waiting for your report.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/index.html
I already know what it says.
next …
TJ , LoL… Lie on the Wall, LoL , TJ , I love it when you’re here, I really do.
I know you laugh at some of the names you come up with. The one about soup earlier was a doozy too. LoL
“How many children were molested in Memphis, and who is most responsible for that crime?” TJ
You claim to be a criminologist, how about you telling us? While you are at it, tells us who is committing the majority of the crimes (MURDER) in Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee.
You know when you hit a “truth” nerve on here when your fellow posters resort to childish name calling.
Poverty stricken whites commit crimes at a mere fraction of what blacks in a similar environment do.
BTW, what does r-a-p-e & murder have to do with poverty????
Just asking …
“How many children were molested in Memphis, and who is most responsible for that crime?” TJ
And exactly how does molestation affect the MURDER rate here in Memphis?
Again, TJ, here’s some more data for your silly butt.
http://www.ticic.state.tn.us/sorinternet/sosearch.aspx
I believe you will find many, many more black perverts in Memphis, than whites.
Call it a hunch, ma man!
At Fly:
Your mother is silly. The last UCR stated differently. Aww…I get it. So long as you don’t kill them, you can ruin a child’s life as much as you want! Now that makes a lot of sense!
FLY, be careful….TJ doesn’t fare well when presented with FACTS and TRUTH.
Now you can expect to be called “Lie On the Wall,” Bigot, Racist, Buffoon, Stupid, Klan Member, etc…!!!!
????
Now TJ, who has trouble typing his 2-letter name, has resorted to posting under Anonymous, so that he can bring your mother into the conversation and degrade her!!!
TJ, you fool no one here. Shake the HATE off so that we can hold an honest discussion.
Anon 2:33,
That is a very high honor.
You know someone has a very weak position when the best they can do is sling mud, when faced with facts.
You see, they won’t acknowledge the truth.
Nothing will change for “them”, until there is acceptance of the facts.
Looks like we ran the pair of “them” off … PEB, TJ.
The truth to those critters is as sunlight is to a vampire.
What “facts”? That’s what that last idiot stated, and his “facts” weren’t true. You’re just as dumb as the last one was. And, who are “they”?
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, its well known that white molest more than blacks. Thats been well known.
At Fly:
Unlike your mother, I don’t “run off” too easily.
I don’t feel like being molested today
LoL
I’m not “degrading” her…she did that all by herself by giving birth to you. The misspelled 2 letter word is called a “typo”, stupid.
The “FACTS” are contained in the DOJ, FBI and Tennessee Sexual Registry links provided to our resident “social scientists”.
Everything you want, or don’t want, to know about the complexion of criminals and perverts are contained within.
Read & learn.
So, you mean to tell me you sat down and read a 548 page document in less than 1 minute? You didn’t do that, so you’re cherry picking your “facts”.
Wanna talk STD racial disparities too???
How about NCLB, ACT & SAT scores, eh????
I’m ready ….
You ought to know about “perverts” very well, fly…since you’re probably one of them. SICKO!
You have one of those, too? God, you’re sicker than I thought, you nasty pervert! Tell your mother to go clean herself more often!
About the schools…since you have more money, are better prepared for school, and your schools have a penchant to cheat more, you should do better in test scores. Perv!
OMG … these critters really are allergic to the truth.
Look at the reaction.
Hey, TJ … got a rash, extreme itching, runny nose, etc????
TJ,
You’re showing your IQ.
TJ:
Don’t let the Fly bait you. He’s not worthy of your responses. His true colors are shining through.
Facts are colorblind, ma man!
Calling for a boycott on Exxon/Citgo gasoline-oil company. Do not buy gas there. While they are steadily posting record breaking revenues. but the price of gasoline at the pumps are going up, last i saw here in Memphis, Cost $3.39 Premium. Now that is just plain crazy. If gas continues to go up for no reason, everything else goes food, transportation cost, but our salaries do not go up everytime they want to raise the gas prices. Check it out on cnn.com for opec’s reply to the real reason for gasoline prices being so high!!! Wake up people Wake Up!!!
TJ, don’t waste your time talking to people like that. They don’t even deserve an answer from me. When your time is consumed with hate and anger toward a race instead of comming up with solutions, it is waist.
I am still waiting for answers from them who suggest that Blacks are beneth them. Pardon me, I am waiting for intellegent answers from people who say that blacks commit all of these crimes.
Fly,
Do you think that all men (and women) and created equal?
PEB,
… and, I’m waiting for the day you can publish two short paragraphs with less than four (4) spelling errors.
Fly,
Do you think that all men (and women) and created equal?
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Only under the law, per the constitution of the USA.
That’s it, ma man!
Heeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
WOOO…can you come up with something better than that? That tells me this, you cannot put a intellegent thought together to come up with an intellegent answer. Wanna try again?
So do you believe that one race is inherently superior to the other? If so, which one?
PEB, I look forward to having an intelligent discussion with you when George finally comes back and bans Fly in my Soup/News Clown. He’s already been banned from several sites in town.
At Fly in my Soup:
Your mother is allergic to the truth…as are you. You can’t accept the FACT that all you do is promote a bunch of racist propaganda with half-truth and outright lies. Now that’s what I call superior. Moron.
Isn’t Africa the birthplace of mankind?
Hi Memphian,
I look forward to it as well. I don’t really blame people like Fly. I am not a racist either, because Fly thinks the same way that the mayor does in my opinion. I think that we have to have an intellegent debate on the issues of Memphis and come up with solutions to decrease crime and increase jobs, education, and neighborhoods, both black and white.
The city has been divided for so long and it is people like Fly and the mayor (I just cannot bring myself to say his name) that perpetuate race and separation in Memphis. I live in Denver and it almost does not exsist. It is time to exterminate flies and impeach the mayor and come up with solutions as a community to Make Memphis Beautiful again!
To PEB and TJ,
Please know that most white people in Memphis do not share the racist views of Fly in my Soup. He is so consumed by bigotry and hate that he cannot have an intelligent discussion with someone black. It’s futile to even try.
But I have noticed that there are several other people on this blog who do hope that open, honest conversation will help bridge the racial divide. It’s refreshing to see that there are both black and white people here who are concerned about the crime in our city and want to discuss what can be done about it. Most of us want the same things in life–a safe place to live, work and raise families.
Try to reach out to those people for discussions and ignore Fly in my Soup as best you can.
At Memphian:
Okay…fair enough.
PEB,
I’m with you on our mayor. I’m white and have lived here all my life and plan to stay here. Many of my friends and family members encourage us to move to the suburbs, but we’ve been determined to stay and not be part of white flight. I voted for Herman Morris in our last election and had high hopes that he could win and begin the healing process, as I felt Carol Chumney was too divisive. But the mayor’s speech after his win made me feel like I was no longer wanted here, just because my skin is white. Fortunately, I’m in regular contact with many black people in Memphis who do not feel that way. Our black civic leaders, businessmen, educators, professionals, etc. would love to see racial harmony in our mutual hometown, and they’re just as embarra-s-sed by our mayor’s behavior as I am.
P.S. Another no-no word here, e-m-b-a-r-a-r-a-s-s
“I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, its well known that white molest more than blacks. Thats been well known.”
And it is becoming known that there is a “code of silence” when it comes to molestation and incest in the black community.
It took a black woman with courage to finally speak about this code of silence.
Crossing the Boundary: Black Women Survive Incest
By Melba Wilson
http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Boundary-Black-Survive-Incest/dp/1878067427
Editorial Reviews – From Library Journal
Melba Wilson, an American freelance journalist living in London, has written a wrenchingly honest and personal book about the sexual abuse of black women and girls. The title refers not only to the boundary abusers violate to commit inappropriate behavior but also the boundary victims must cross in order to talk about their experiences and begin the healing process. Pressure for silence from the black community, black family values, racism, and myths about black women all hinder healing and protection of the victims. Much of the data Wilson cites are British in origin, but this book is also important for African Americans. Highly recommended for public and academic libraries.
Wonder what’s up with the programmer(s) of WordPress that he/she/they decided to ban words that contain a-s-s? Or should I print it a*s*s?
“You know someone has a very weak position when the best they can do is sling mud, when faced with facts” Fly on the Wall
Let them keep slinging all that they have – mud.
However, those of us who desire to know the truth will keep speaking it, the name calling be damned.
WOW, you guys have been really busy since this morning. Hey Whitey, how was the park? Bs suggestion. When someone hits you with a slap or slur then ignore them. If they attack you (inbcluding you TJ) ignore them. It is way to easy including for me, toignore it. I seem to enjoy trading slams at times. But, the fact is if we ignore then we can have a much lower blood pressur efor the day and then they are disarmed. Try it!
PEB good to see you friend!
Some alarming news coming out about the Lester St. killings. The adults have been identified, but the family still doesn’t know which of the children are alive and which are dead. Also, the supposed ex-girlfriend who filed an order of protection against Dotson is one of the ones killed. Apparently, she went back to him and they had another child together.
This case and the horrible Charlene Gaither killing and dismembering shine a light on what is apparently a growing problem here–women who remain with an abusive boyfriend and endanger their lives and the lives and well being of their children in doing so.
Hey whitey, did any mean old crackers attack you while at the park?
Here’s something cute about Creation and scientists.
A conversation with God and a Scientist:
God is sitting in Heaven when a scientist says to Him, “Lord, we
don’t need you anymore. Science has finally figured out a way to
create life out of nothing. In other words, we can now do what you did
in the ‘beginning’.”
“Oh, is that so? Tell me…” replies God.
“Well? , says the scientist, “we can take dirt and form it into the likeness
of you and breathe life into it, thus creating man.”
“Well, that’s interesting. Show Me.”
So the scientist bends down to the earth and starts to mold the soil.
“Oh no, no, no…” interrupts God
(I love this)
“Get your own dirt.”
It’s really sad that with all the crime in Memphis & most recently the murders on Lester St., that folks are still nitpicking & namecalling on here. It shouldn’t matter what color a person is, they are still human beings. God created us equal & we should treat everyone with the same respect that we expect to receive.
Memphians need to get to know their neighbors & learn to live together. Afterall, we’re all Americans, but how can we stand up against violence (or Terrorism) if you can’t even get along with each other? What are you teaching your own children if you show racism towards others?
I moved from Memphis years ago & where I used to miss Memphis, now I just miss the way Memphis WAS when I was there.
Proud , I had a nice little walk saw a couple of WLW (wierd lookin whiteys). I kept my eye on them. I think since I’m not a farm animal I was safe.
“However, those of us who desire to know the truth will keep speaking it, the name calling be damned.”
Hopw about you who try to put a racial spin on the “truth” be damned?
Hey Memphian,
I feel your pain. I was born and raised in South Memphis, Trigg and Lauderdale, moved to Whitehaven and left when I was 28 years old. I voted for the mayor in the first election. Back then, I was for the ‘black power’ movement for the mayor at that time.
I left soon after and the more I come back to see my mother and father, the less and less I like Memphis. Not because of the race stuff because that could be eliminated if we had leadership that would commit to healing the city.
Whitey, I wonder if they feared you wondering if you had an interest in farm animals. What do you think?
“Hopw about you who try to put a racial spin on the “truth” be damned?”
How about you sensitive folks who name-call and can’t handle the facts go to a “feel-good” forum so that the adults can hold an honest discussion with the TRUTH being the central theme?
Whats up Proud!
Glad to see you my friend!
Keep up the good work!
Peace to Proud!
“How about you sensitive folks who name-call and can’t handle the facts go to a “feel-good” forum so that the adults can hold an honest discussion with the TRUTH being the central theme?”
How about telling your mother to meet her clients there first? Bigot.
The ones that pay her to “service” them.
To Proud and Mr. Whitey,
I ask this with all due respect and genuine curiosity, why did you pick those names?
msdixie,
Alot of us miss the way Memphis was.
All this really isn’t new. Memphis has always had a reputation of being tough. My mother told me that in the 1920s Memphis was known as the r.a.p.e. capital of the world.Then in the 30s it was known as the murder capital of the world.. So all this isn’t new, but, I guess it’s new to the victims of these crimes.
Thanks for the history lesson, Whitey. I never knew that
Curious,
Before I ever posted the first time I kinda hung back and read The Rant for a few weeks and noticed some of the racial things going on here on BOTH sides of the fence and thats what I decided to go by. You can go through my past posts through the pages of The Rant and see, I don’t call racial names of anykind.I could have called myself Henry and people would have no problem with what I say. The people I stay on is the spineless white people. I call them sheeple. I blame the woes of Memphis on them than I do the blacks. Although I do have a problem with Mayor Herenton , But thats not because of his race. Thats about his ego and arrogance. Hemakes more of a big deal about him being black than I do. Like I say, go through the past pages of The Rant, You’ll see what I’m all about.
C-Ya
TJ
Yeah I even saw some of that on TV once. I think on channel 10. So it was a very violent city when whites were at the helm too. My grandparents lived down in New Albany and they were scared to death to come visit in Memphis. That was back in the 50s
To The other shoe,
Nah,as long as they weren’t sheep they were safe around me.
You nasty ole fart! LOL I bet you wear hip boots too. HOW did I know what they were for? LOL
Thanks, Mr Whitey. That’s why I ask, because I’ve scrolled over your posts and they didn’t seem to mesh with the name.
Yeah, those days were with Crump running the show! Boss Crump!
I am really GETTING irked at this WordPress thing!
I have tried twice to type clean nice explanations to Ms. Kitten
I sent an email to WordPress and was told I had to take it to the author of the site. It isn’t WordPress problem.
3 times my posts have been dumoped for NO reason. ARGHHHHHH
I am proud of the good south and the good southern heritage. short summation
Back later…good evening tilll then
Hey ya’ll
I have tried to post again and again, but it times out. I like the different views and Mr. Whitey, I did not know that Memphis was always a dangerous place. Why is it that it has to stay that way. I understand that most of the people in Memphis is stuck on the mayor.
I don’t know too much about Herman Morris. From everyone I talk to, he is a good person. Carol Chumbly and the mayor run in packs. Why did Mr. Morris get the voters buy-in?
THE CRIME RATE IN THIS CITY IS OUT OF CONTROL THE MURDER OF 6 PEOPLES AND ATTEMPMENT MURDER OF 3 BABYS IS SO SAD WHO EVER DID THIS THAT PERSON HAS ICE WATER IN THEIR VEINS YOU HAVE TO A COLD M.F. TO KILL A CHILD YOU DO NOT NEED TO GO TO JAIL THAT PERSON NEEDS KILLING THEM SELF MY PRAYERS GO ALL OUT FOR THE FAMILY I HOPE THEY CATCH THE SOB SOON SOMEONE OUT THERE KNOWS WHO DID THIS PLEASE COME FORTH AND CALL CRIMESTOPPERS PLEASE………………
“Chain of events.” What does that supposed to mean? What chain of events, PJ?
Lizz, you are right on. The person(s) who did this is pure evil and has to be locked away forever or put to death. Right now, prisoners on death row are having a case heard by the U.S. Supreme Court arguing that lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment.
How about we allow their death to be carried out exactly the way they killed their victim? Do you think they would cry that it would be cruel and unusual?
Our courts must stop pandering to the criminals. It is not fair to the good people who have rights too.
That is the problem with America today. In the interest of protecting “rights” the courts are protecting criminals who, in my opinion, messed up their rights upon murdering folks, especially kids. Fry them and let them die!!
OH, Mr. Whitey, I went to the You tube link finally that you put on an earlier post. That was really cute!!! Highly recommend
Two men who were wrongfully convicted of separate child murders in Mississippi were recently cleared in the crimes based on evidence proving their innocence.
One had been on death row.
The actual perpetrator in both of the child murders has been arrested and confessed.
What is Mississippi had put the innocent man to death before his exoneration?
This is why the appeals process takes so long.
Putting a man to death and later discovering that he was innocent is a wrong that can never be rectified.
“If one accepts the proposition that no one is beyond the redemptive, transformative power of God, then one must necessarily accept this as the single, greatest, transcendent, and irrefutable argument against the death penalty. Although there are many ‘legal arguments’ against the death penalty, there is none so compelling as this transcendent principle that no one is beyond the redemptive, transformative power of God.”–David L. Gregory
Trasformation for any man is definitely a possibility and can be done. I have stated many times on this rant that I have led many men to Christ in the prison system. I will submit this to you though sir/maam, that many of those same inmates (might I add some lifers and double lifers) admit there is a consequence of every action. The consequence in almost every state in the union is death by execution for many heinous crimes.
Now, if a man or woman is found guilty by a juror of their peers and the appeals process has run our, Death is the follow up. When prescribed by law even the Lord has that allowance for justice.
Mn scriptures in the New and Old Testaments call for death.
Many*
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
To RP: Is that jaw bone of? or Jack? or posterior? Could it be not knowing one from a hole in the ground? How ’bout not being able to find one with both hands? My my, there are so many to choose from, it can confuse a person. HA HA or is it HEE HAW?
Well George, my reply to you about Salt Lake City was refused, I suppose because I mentioned positive suggestions of combining COGIC and the Southern Baptists to fight crime in Memphis. I’ll shorten this and try one more time. The Mormons do not tolerate the behavior one sees in Memphis, nor do they allow the trash. We also can do better.
Irish, You are not personally blocked. There are several certain words that are blocked. simple words such as r.a.p.e., s.h.a.p.e., m.a.s.s.a.c.r.e., e.m.b.a.r.a.s.s. George will fix it when he gets back. It’s very frustrating to type for a while only to have to not post. I feel your pain.
The Mormons do tolerate multiple marriages and exploitation of the system by some of their more extreme members. That multiple marriages have been outlawed does not mean they aren’t still practiced.
But, I also have to say this th Anon: Say what you want. I believe some people are beyond redemption.
“Police identified Hollis Seals as one of the victims murdered inside 722 Lester Street. Tonight his cousins say he was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.”
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Seems as though ole Hollis has been “in the wrong place at the wrong time” quite frequently during his “cut short” professional career, eh???
It will be quite interesting to see who the perps were, and what the motive was, for this crime.
From what I can see, from information released so far, the adult victims were absolutely unproductive, low level criminals. The children were obviously “economic wards of the taxpayers”.
No one was employed. What the hell do these people do all day????
I really haven’t spoke a whole lot on the cures and remedeys of crime here in the city.I personally think that if grown folks were to get off the dope it would help a lot.Back many years ago I dabbled in dope. I guess it was part of me growing up. But the thing that gets me is the 40year old and up crowd being on dope. That just blows my mind. They may as well be still sucking their bot-bot.
Another thing I wish to rant about this morning, and yes this pertians to the Lester case but it happens all across this land WHITE and BLACK. Please stop getting on TV trying to defend your loved one. My God, people were on there saying so and so was such a good person. LOOK…. When you do time in prison, you are not a good person. When you live a lifestyle of crime and drugs and put your loved ones at risk, you are not a good person. When you lay with a person like that, then I’m sorry, you are not a good person.
All the time on TV we see,white and black, the family of perpetrators of crime get up on TV and defend the Hell out of them. To those of you who do it,STOP IT ! This thing is a tragedy, whether the people were good or bad is beside the point. Those little kids sure weren’t criminals. In my opinion the only ones who were in the wrong place at the wrong time were the children. They were put in harms way by people who WEREN’T good people.
A LETTER TO YOU FROM SATAN
I saw you yesterday as you began your daily chores.
You awoke without kneeling to pray.
As a matter of fact, you didn’t even bless your meals, or pray before
going to bed last night.
You are so unthankful, I like that about you.
I cannot tell you how glad I am that you have not changed your way of
living, Fool, you are mine.
Remember, you and I have been going steady for years, and, I still
don’t love you yet.
As a matter of fact, I hate you, because I hate God.
He kicked me out of heaven, and I’m going to use you as long as
possible to pay him back.
You see, Fool, GOD LOVES YOU and HE has great plans in store for you.
But you have yielded your life to me, and I’m going to
make your life a living hell.
That way, we’ll be together twice. This will really hurt
God. Thanks to you, I’m really showing Him who’s boss in your life
with all of the good times we’ve had.
We have been…
watching dirty movies, cursing people out, stealing, lying, being
hypocritical, fornicating, overeati! ng,
telling dirty jokes, gossiping,
being judgmental, back stabbing people,
disrespecting adults, and those in leadership positions,
no respect for the Church, bad attitudes.
SURELY you don’t want to giv e all this up.
Come on, Fool, let’s burn together forever. I’ve got some hot plans
for us.
This is just a letter of appreciation from me to you.
I’d like to say ‘THANKS’ for letting me use you for most of your
foolish life.
Yo u are so gullible, I laugh at you. When you are tempted to sin, you
give in.
HA HA HA, you make me sick.
Sin is beginning to take its toll on your life. You look 20 years
older, and now, I need new blood.
So go ahead and teach some children how to sin.
All you have to do is smoke,do drugs, get drunk or drink while
under-aged, cheat, gamble, gossip, fornicate, and live
being as selfish as possible.
Do all of this in the presence of children and they will
do it too. Kids are like that.
Well, Fool, I have to let you go for now. I’ll be back in a couple of
seconds to tempt you again. If you were smart, you would run somewhere,
confess your sins, and live for God with what little bit of life that you
have left.
It’s not my nature to warn anyone, but to be your age and be still
sinning, it’s becoming a bit ridiculous.
Don’t get me wrong, I still hate you.
IT’S JUST THAT YOU’D MAKE A BETTER FOOL FOR CHRIST.
P.S. If you love me, you won’t share
this
Batter up!
Who’s batting first today????
100+ MPH fastball, and my slider’s working great.
Come on, one of you cretins, … step up to the plate!
TJ batter up !
At least the Mormon’s have the decency and values to marry before they start popping out all of those babies.
At least the Mormon’s take care of their children and don’t depend upon the government to financially support them.
“Say what you want.” DJ
They did and without your permission or blessing.
WOW! Mr. Whitey, I didn’t know you had it in ya bro! That was good or bad….ouch. Kind of hurts in areas too. Anyway, I liked it for sure!
OH, and the thoughts on the drugs and all. Been there done that and whole heartedly agree!
This site is so frustrating!!! I can’t post anything!!!
Ya’ll check this out. Got this from another site.
MEMPHIS, TN – Memphis’ reputation as a city with many murders goes back more than century. We spoke with a historian Wednesday, March 5, 2008 to get a history lesson on the crime in Memphis, which was once known as “the murder capitol of the country”.
“Memphis has a violent background throughout history,” said historian Steve Masler.
In 1921, the New York Times called Memphis the most dangerous city in the country, leading the nation in murders with 58 that year.
In an editorial from the “New York Sunday Mercury” from 1870, a person wrote, “to those weary of life, but who have not the courage to shoot or hang themselves, we recommend a trip to Memphis.”
Historians say an outbreak of Yellow Fever in the late 1800s contributed to the violence in the Bluff City.
“The number of people left were the poorest of the poor, the people who could not afford to leave. That led to a high amount of illegal activity of people trying to get by,” said Masler.
Decades later, many say the crime and violence is still out of control. On Monday, March 3, six people, including two children, were found dead inside a home in Binghampton at 722 Lester Street. The killer is still on the loose.
Police say it has been a while since they have seen such a horrific crime.
In the spring of 1973, 28 year-old David Sanders went on a shooting rampage on Kansas Street in South Memphis. Sanders fired random shots while walking down the street, killing five people, including a Memphis Police Officer.
All units be advised the word s.c.r.a.p.e is also blocked
Proud, Look way back in the past posts of mine. Past couple of weeks haven’t been the best for me, but I’m feeling a little better and making a comeback.
Wellll, gotta go dfo the work thang for some of today. I need the work BIG time so, here’s to all of yall. Have a great one and make it good!
Behave and don’t mistreat TJ now…….
Good for you my friend and am glad for you!
I’ll be nice to TJ. When he needs to be fed ,I’ll give him his bottle,When he needs changing …. WELL .
TJ,
go to your email and write your rant then copy and paste. if it dont post then try removing or replacing certain words. sometimes I gat so mad I pound my desk.
Seems the most common words WordPress doesn’t like are a*p*e and a*s*s. Any words that contain those letters in that order will keep your comments from posting. I’m sure there are others, but haven’t discovered them yet.
Anyway, try writing your “rant” in Word or another word processing program. When you’re finished, do a “Find” and type in a-p-e (without dashes) and then a-s-s (again, without dashes). Word will show you if you have either of those and you can change them.
Any thoughts on selling wine in grocery stores? Personally, I’m all for it. Most other states allow it. There’s just something unseemly about most liquor stores, and typically all I want is a bottle of wine to go with a special dinner I’m making. There are health benefits of wine in moderation. Prices in grocery stores will probably be lower. Convenience. Less gas used (and pollution emitted) by one-stop shopping.
I really can’t see any downside for the consumer. I know it will hurt small business owners who run liquor stores, but the legislature could (and should) allow them to sell more items. In other states, liquor stores can sell just about anything they want. In Tennessee, liquor stores can’t even sell a corkscrew.
Anyway, just wanted to hear some other thoughts on the subject. I know there are more pressing things going on in the city, but sometimes lighter subject matter can be a good thing.
Hope everyone is having a good day.
At Curious:
I don’t know about that one. Something about that makes me uneasy.
Oh, by the way, while I’m on my high horse,
All you whites out in the burbes who do dope and want to talk about the people in that house among others, you are just as bad, when you buy your dope you automatically contribute to the thug-like lifestyle that respectable folk are trying to combat.So YOU need to get off your holier than thou throne and get off the dope and lead by example. You can’t tell little Jimmy or Pamala Sue the wrongs of drugabuse if you do it yourself.
Every bit of the money you spend on dope filters right back to houses just like that and contributes to the crime and the decay thats is happening right before our eyes. Some of you even attend church. Do you really think you are any different than dopeheads who don’t attend. If you think you are then you are fooling yourself. YOU CAN’T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS !
“I can’t post anything!!!”
At BJ:
Good!
Curious’
I’m with TJ on that one.We don’t need to promote whats a big enough problem.
Keep the winw where it’s at.
Lips which touch wine don’t touch mine.
Why, T.J.? Wine sales are already legal in the state. Why should grocery stores be prevented from selling it? 33 other states allow wine sales in grocery stores.
At Anon:
Shut up, you loser!
And, that “TJ”, you illiterate s.o.b.
Because, teenage alcoholism is a big problem in this nation. The ease with which some minors can get it from a gas station is bad enough. If you add grocery stores into the mix, all that means is more people will have more access to alcohol.
At BJ:
Alcohol is legal. Wine should be in grocery stores if the people want it to be. Parents need to tend to their children and quit impeding the rights of others.
DRINKING AND DRIVING DONT MIX.
TJ,
You know it’s that same racist jerk trying to get under your skin. Don’t let him.
I saw a great quote on the CA today. Someone posting as Brinkley (probably the same person who is Fly in My Soup and News Clown on here) said some very offensive things and many people were responding to it. I think the Brinkley post was finally deleted, but here’s what one wise sage had to say (quoting his father):
“Son, if you stand on the roadside arguing with a fool, the people p*a*s*sing by will not be able to tell who the ‘fool’ is.”
TJ, I know that you’re better than Fly/Clown/Anon. Don’t let him bring you down to his level. Ignore him.
P.S. Another naughty word, p*a*s*s*i*n*g.
I am white male. I have a Bachelors Degree in Human Relations from Trevecca Nazarene University. I have a Master Degree in Management from Brescia University. I am not racist by no way of the meaning of the word. I do make typo errors. I don’t have all the solutions.
However, I am considering “what can I do to help Memphis?”. I have lived in Memphis a year and seven months. I am either going to try to help change Memphis or leave Memphis.
I am not one to sit and complain and do nothing about it. I am considering running for Mayor but I don’t think that I can since I have to live in Memphis for 5 years before I am eligible to run for mayor.
I really believe that major problems in Memphis is due to the lack of government in the City of Memphis. If one does the crime, then one does the time. If we can not control the crime in Memphis with our own police force then we should add to our force or call in the National Guards.
But grocery stores already sell beer, and grocery stores have much stricter regulations than liquor stores on carding people (I’ll never understand why liquor stores were exempt from the new card everyone law; just goes to show you how powerful their lobby is in Tennessee.)
“DRINKING AND DRIVING DONT MIX.”
At Anon:
And it is against the law.
Memphian, I saw that too.
Anonymous, Wine is fine where it is. Just because you have rights don’t mean the rest don’t have any.
Rights are like firearms, best if left in the hands of responsible people.
“TJ, You know it’s that same racist jerk trying to get under your skin. Don’t let him.”
Yes TJ, I am sure it is the same person who you keep calling stupid and bigoted because they don’t agree with everything you say. Yes TJ, you reap what you sow. If you are rude and mean to others and can’t respect the fact that they have also have a right to state their opinion without being berated and degraded, then you can expect the same back. A pretty simple concept that I don’t think you can understand.
You’re “imepding on the rights of others”. You’re a bigot, and not a very good one at that. That’s what laws do, stupid; they impede on the alleged “rights” of others. Some people feel it’s okay to own an AK-47. Some people feel it’s their “right to go 100 mph on the expressway. Some people like you feel it’s their “right” to have sex with children.
by the way, I am not racist. In 1970’s I travelled with a all black choir and I was with the COGIC when it was not popular. I received death threats by whites. I had trash thrown at me in Mississippi and I had blacks to threaten me at the Mississippi Valley State University Campus for being the only white on Campus. I was there to perform with the Gospel Choir. I know how it feels to be discriminated against just because of the color of your skin. I also know that there are good blacks and there are good whites. Each race has it’s share of bad blood being reproduced. The problem is the people in charge. Look at this city before King Willie and since King Willie and honestly answer the question about his leadership.
You’re “impeding on the rights of others”. You’re a bigot, and not a very good one at that. That’s what laws do, stupid; they impede on the alleged “rights” of others. Some people feel it’s okay to own an AK-47. Some people feel it’s their “right to go 100 mph on the expressway. Some people like you feel it’s their “right” to have sex with children. That’s what laws do. I already knew what you are, and you still do not impress me. I simply enjoy belittling people like you.
John,
I’m with you 100% on the National Guard part of your post. I think a state of emergency needs to be declared and an ENFORCED curfew needs to be put in place and bring in the Guard. (Now heres where I’m going to catch flack)If that dont work then send the Guard around to KNOWN gang and drug houses to round them up and incarcerate them just like the soldiers do in Iraq.
I also challenge anyone who is on this cite who has children to say they watch their children 24/7.
John,
This town was messed up way before Willie came along. He just hasn’t done anything to remedy it. Its his attitude of which I detest.
Alcohol is legal. Not being responsible for your children is neglect, which is illegal.
“anyone who is on this cite ”
At VJ:
It is SITE, not cite. Not only are you intolerant of other people’s opinions but you are ignorant as well.
Hi, John. Sounds like you’ve had quite an interesting life.
I’m intolerant of the opinion of a bigot like yourself because you really have nothing of merit to say. You are better off seen and not heard. You also missed my point. No parent, no matter how responsible they are or are not, can keep their eyes on their children at all times. It gets extra hard when your children become teenagers.
Dang TJ, are we rubbing off on each other? LoL, NAH !
I wish this site had a chat room on it.
“I’m intolerant of the opinion of a bigot”
At BJ:
I know you are but what am I?
It is a sad day in Memphis when people are killed including children on Lester Street and our mayor says on TV that he has no answers.
At Anon:
Is that ALL you can do? Not only are you a bigot, but you’re pathetic as well.
At John:
Honestly, John. What can the mayor do? He didn’t put the gun in those murderers hands, nor did he give them the knife. That it is taking this long to even find a suspect means someone who knows something is not talking.
T.J.,
I agree with you that parents can’t watch their children 24/7, especially when they’re teenagers, but parents should have given their children a moral compa*s*s before those teenage years to help the child differentiate right from wrong. When the child screws up (and 99 percent of teenagers do), the parent should then not be afraid to discipline the child and show them the consequences of bad behavior. Instead, too often today parents tend to try to explain away their child’s behavior, making excuses and blaming others.
I know I was no angel as a teenager, but when I screwed up my parents stepped in to set me right. When I got an F on my report card, I was grounded for six weeks. When I lied to my father, I didn’t get to go to the high school dance. When I got a speeding ticket, my car was taken away from me. My parents didn’t blame my teachers, my friends or the police. I made those bad decisions myself, and I had to pay the piper.
Some other things of note about my upbringing–my parents were divorced, but they both remained involved in important decisions about their children; we were pretty poor after my parents divorced and couldn’t afford designer clothes or shoes, but we managed to live in a relatively nice home in a good neighborhood where we could play safely; we were not a very religious family but we were and are very moral people.
Overall, I consider myself very lucky. I’ve turned out to be a productive member of society, and to this day I think it’s because my parents loved me enough to allow me to hate them at times (can’t remember where I heard/saw that quote, but it really resounded with me).
Aaaah, yes…only “whites commit crimes”. So I guess that black “prophet” that was marrying children off to adults was just misunderstood. He’s currently on trial. Hmmm…
Whitey, is that ALL you can do? Not only are you a bigot, but you’re pathetic as well.
Look at what “TJ” said. It gets pretty infuriating to always hear something like that.
Crime is crime , but that prophet didn’t slaughter people, at least not physically.
TJ, what are you talking about. what did I say now? Please explain.
mayor bill has no answers for anything.
Rudy Giuliani had the answers for NYC. Brought it from to most dangerous large city in the US … to one of the safest.
When you have an out of control crime problem, ZERO TOLERANCE is the way to go.
It’s amazing the number of outstanding warrants that get cleared, removing violent critters from the streets. It’s amazing the number of weapons that are removed form the streets. … It’s absolutely amazing how crime decreases.
Of course, you had the moans from the black community about profiling, etc, etc. … When practically all the criminals are black, one would expect that kind of tripe fron the whiners.
Bottom Line: It works.
You may ask me why your mayor bill hasn’t used that crime fighting tool.
Well, the answer is actually quite simple. Even you duller ones can grasp it.
Mayor bill thinks the “real people” of memfrica are his beloved sloths, criminals, property blight artists, government aid dependees, and violent / underperforming students of a south memfrica ilk. He also is well aware that any implementation of “zero tolerance” crime fighting methods would involve arresting an extremely high % of “real people”.
So, he does nothing.
It’s important at this time that the mayor step up and show LEADERSHIP. Perhaps he could spearhead a fund-raising effort for the children who survived or as a reward for the capture of the monster/s who committed this heinous act; or he could vow to devote more police presence to this neighborhood where gunfire is an everyday occurrence and the residents don’t even call police because it’s so commonplace and the police don’t show up anyway; perhaps he could just a*s*sure the citizens of Memphis that he’ll personally see to it that everything possible is done to catch this horrible killer.
Something, ANYTHING, besides merely shrugging his shoulders.
Is it possible that Fly on the Wall is impersonating TJ?
I’ll bet you are a homophobe too, bigot!
Yeah, maybe we could have a bake sale and TJ could make some of his famous BBQ shoulder and sell that .That’ll solve it.
I don’t know why TJ is all of a sudden going off on me.
I sure ain’t a homophobe. i dont care who anybody sleeps with.
I don’t think it really is TJ. Looks like someone has stolen his identity. Is this what they mean by online identity fraud?
That’s another problem with this site. Too easy to impersonate someone else. It’s why the CA makes you register.
To the fool that is stealing my name:
That crap may be cute to you, but if I get my hands on you, I’ll show you what crime is…personally.
I’ve seen FLY/news clown do it on other sites too–hijack other people’s names/identities. This is another problem that George needs to address. You can easily change your name on here and lots of people do (myself included), but it shouldn’t be so easy for someone to be able to impersonate someone else.
If you scroll back up, you’ll see that Fly on the Wall/news hound twisted TJ’s words from previous posts. Be careful on here–the news hound is up to his dirty old tricks again. This is just one more reason why he keeps getting banned from web sites all over town.
The ID thief is most likely a homophobic white man.
At Fly:
Your claim is incorrect, and is the dumbest thig I’ve ever heard. If you feel so unsafe here, why don’t you leave?
To fly in an anus:
Unless your name is “John”, mind your own business. That question was for him, and I know your parents didn’t teach you much about manners, so I guess I have to do so. The fact of the matter is, there are more reasons why crime in NYC went down than Giuliani. The police ignored the rights of African Americans, and treated all of them like criminals. They started killing more and asking questions later. That may make a bigot like you feel safe, but your safety is of no real consequence.
Oh ok LoL
LoL ,fly in the anus, LoL, now I know thats TJ.
Bottom Line:
Crime in NYC went down, WAY DOWN!
Of course blacks were whining.
They were commiting the vast majority of the crimes, and when the authorities clamped down, they whined.
Still … NYC went from most dangerous to least dangerous. Too bad if someone’s feelings got hurt. It worked!
The fly on the dog dung pile is a homophobe!
TJ,
There are oodles of stats from NYC which easily demonstrate how blacks were responsible for the vast majority of crime, especially violent crime.
If it would help you comprehend just what happened, I’d be more than happy to fetch those stats for your feebleminded posterior, and post them.
Not surprising. He’s always looking for new people/groups to hate.
Blacks whined about profiling all through the crackdown in NYC.
When it was all said & done, it turned out that blacks were stopped by NYPD at a much lower frequency than the black crime rate. Although, it was at a higher rate than their population %.
The whining fell on deaf ears … and, yours.
FOTW
Fly, ma man, do you think one race is inherently superior to others? If so, which one?
I have to agree with you Fly. Too many people whining and not wanting to do anything about it.
Man, some of you people just refuse to acknowledge the facts.
Do you manage to get back home most days without asking for direstions????
Different races each have their strong & weak aspects.
They are well documented.
Fly, do you believe that black and white people can work together to make this city a better, safer place? Do you agree that most black Memphians are law-abiding citizens who are more often victimized than white people in Memphis?
I have seen those same stats Fly and you are right on the money. Keep on keeping us informed because we have a right to know what the truth is.
What are direstions?????
“The fly on the dog dung pile is a homophobe!”
At myself:
I take that back because I love eating flies, especially the ones that spent a few minutes on the dog dung pile.
See, now Fly has taken to calling himself the real TJ. He’ll keep doing it until George makes people register before posting. He messes things up for everyone else.
Anything’s possible.
Yes … but, let me add … They are almost always victimized by black criminals, as are the white victims.
next …
“LoL ,fly in the anus, LoL, now I know thats TJ.”
At Mr. Whitey:
You’ll know it is me because I act childish and name call when someone says something that hits my sensitive spot also known as my internal truth meter.
Hey, authentic TJ, start using the name “I’m black and I’m proud.” That racist won’t be able to bring himself to type those words.
“He’ll keep doing it until George makes people register before posting. He messes things up for everyone else.”
At Memphian:
I have to admit that I mess things up for everyone too because I don’t know how to be nice and have an honest adult conversation without calling people names. No different than what I did when I was a child. I guess I am not mature enough to let everyone else have their say without degrading them. Oh well. Sorry folks but I can’t seem to help myself.
Man, this is out of control. TJ. I know when it is you, just I know when the fly is around. I would refuse to answer him. He is part of the problem. The mayor is part of the problem. The attitudes of Memphis has to be erased, reprogrammed.
Slavery happend so long ago. Caucasians have been discrimminated by African Americans and vise-versa. This is 2008, and this has not stopped. The attitude has to change.
Memphian, yes I do believe that Caucasians and African Americans can live in unity. I see it everyday out here in Denver. But it is the mindset that has to change.
Memphian LoL
Ok dogs gotta go 4 now
C-Ya
The first thing the Mayor could do is get on TV and say that he has every intention to stop the crime in Memphis. We all know that it is impossible to stop the crime in memphis 100%.
However that should be the goal.
He should develop a team of black and white community leaders to develop a stragetic plan on how to reduce crime in Memphis.
He should take the $500,000 that he just spent by creating useless positions for his former body guards and friends and use the $500,000 toward fighting crime.
I would reduce the Mayor’s salary to $150,000. I would get rid of all excess positions in City Government and I would focus most of my time on the Crime Problem. It is time for a Change in Memphis. Yes WE CAN CHANGE.
Corruption reproduces Corruption. The followers will never be better than the leader. To turn the City of Memphis around we must have morals, integrity, honesty, dedication, and role models in our city leaders. It is time for Memphis to turn over a new leaf.
At Fly:
Your mother (if you know who she is) is feeble minded.
I have to admit that I don’t know who my daddy is but I am sure he is feeble minded.
At PEB:
I have to admit that I am part of the problem too. If somehow I could find it in my heart to allow others, who disagree with me, to have their say without calling them names, then maybe this forum could be productive. But that will take effort on my part and I just don’t think I am up to it. As you know, it makes me feel better about myself to belittle others. Thanks for the advice though and I know you mean well.
My daddy isn’t as feebel minded as that prostitute I call a mother or that child molestor that I called a father…and I’m not sure he was really the thing that spawned me. But, I have to admit: I am jealous of TJ. I mean, he always disputes my bigotry, and he always calls me names. They’re usually true, but…
At PEB:
Of course I’m superior! I’m white! I haven’t done anything else with my life, but hey, I’m superior! So what I like playing in the sewer!
Man, I couldn’t have said that better myself! Bravo to John!!
I like walking through manure! I only take a bath once a month, but I still smell good! You wanna know why?! Because I’m white!!!
That’s a good idea, John… I agree.
To Fly:
I don’t play with rats and flies. I played in sewers when I was a child. Now I am a grown man and don’t have time to play games with you or anyone like you. This is the last time that I will direct a comment to a fly, because my IQ just went down 30 points for entertaining your comment.
I like chancres on my tongue! I wish TJ would just take my facts as fact. I can produce a ton of evidence that proves my point. It’ll probably not be totally true, but hey, I don’t care! I’m white!
TJ, that’s ok. See in having strong opinions, we do get emotional in our thoughts and that is a good thing. For you to go back and forth with a person who calls themselves a fly, if you don’t watch it, it will pull you down to his level.
Time to think up than down! Peace to TJ!!
This is getting pretty comical. TJ and Fly switching places.
But, I’m just voicing an opinion. True, the opinion may sound racist, but that’s not the case. If you blacks would stop committing crimes, my life would be better! I also like sniffing cow dung!
Don’t leave! I have more facts! In 1776, I invented oxygen!
This is getting pretty comical. TJ and Fly got a kind of Freaky Thursday thing going on.
LOL at oxygen inventor!
Thaddeus Matthews is my hero. I’m so glad someone like him is around to reveal the actual facts. He’s a wonderful person who serves this community well. I don’t know why he won’t allow me on his site any more.
Hey, you! I can’t steal my own name! That’s pythagorean!
Oops, I meant plainterism!
I think I’m getting a boner. My wife will be so happy.
LOL. Sorry, TJ. Couldn’t help myself. I wanted in on the fun!
Wow, all I can say is Wow. Some amusing posts, some sad, and some truly scary. But then that’s the Internet, nets tend to gather everything swimming at the time, good, bad and otherwise.
Coming from a large metro area here one has to truly marvel at the perception of crime in this city. You would think from the posts that it’s the wild west. Truth be told Memphis is actually a pretty nice place to live, you get a much more balanced perspective when you leave and travel to other areas, or better yet, other countries. You want to see unrestricted, uncontrolled crime? Try many parts of eastern Europe, Kingston, Jamaica or many other places on the earth.
The greater majority of crime is perpetrated on or by someone the victims know. It’s rare that the truly random act of violence happens.
What’s also amusing is the constant back and forth between white and black as if the world was made up of only two cultures (technically there is only one race, of many cultures). Wake up my friends, the world is so much bigger and more varied than that. Like it or not other cultures are penetrating your little bubble of life here and will affect the balance of Black/White love/hate here. Get used to it, you no longer have an exclusive racial fight club. Not to mention that the secret of living here has gotten out and is slowly attracting many ex-pat northeners who love the weather AND the rents.
Ex-Pat Northern-Carpet-Bagging-Job-Taking-and-home-owning SOB
I’m so flattered, Fly, that you’ve taken to impersonating me now. But the real Memphian has got to get back to work and won’t be posting for a while.
Have a good day, all!
Very good point Ex-Pat. It is interesting to hear that from someone who was not born in Memphis. Peace to Ex-Pat
I know that’s right Memphian. I am at work reading this too. Have a great day man…peace to Memphian.
Fly’s writings are often denounced but seldom disputed.
It doesn’t pay to dispute what you know to be true.
No problem, Memphian. Since he can dish it out, I wonder if he can take it.
I just got back from a manure bath…and I’m white as snow! Well, I was before I took that bath.
No problem, Memphian. I can dish it out, but as you see, I can’t take it.
“I think I’m getting a boner. My wife will be so happy.”
At Memphian:
I am getting one too. You want to come over to my crib?
At Fly:
Who is Thaddeus Matthews?
“TJ, that’s ok. For you to go back and forth with a person who calls themselves a fly, if you don’t watch it, it will pull you down to his level.”
At PEB:
No pulling is necessary, I am already down at the level. Thank you for being my friend though.
DANG! I got a headache and I’m dizzy after the last 100 posts. You guys have been REALLY busy!
I agree TJ, you should ignore the fly. They seem to be attracted to poop. Anyway, yall have me rolling laughing so much. this has been better than the comedians on TV.
JOhn, you have some good points and ideas. As for running for Mayor, if you have been here 19 months now you will have time to live here long enough. Willie’s got 4 more years anyway. Willie does need to do something and not just shrug or say I don’t know. It needs more attention than that. Start maybe by going by and visiting the family.
Now, I did read this morning that the sister to one man killed was saying how much of a “family man” her brother was. I found that amusing frankly. Because he had a rap sheet for quite a long time. He was having his kids in the home knowing that the wrong element was coming around like his bud that also got killed. Just out of 201 Saturday night.
Family men don’t do that stuff and hang with thos folks. I think honestly that there is a wrong standard being taught by a lot of the parents in the black community that sends a message to their kids that this is ok. Or so it seems. NOW, I know I’ll get a lot of notes on this one. It was not meant racist simply an honest observation.
Fly’s writings are often disputed but seldom true.
It doesn’t pay to dispute what you know to be stupid.
Thieves, murders, whores, drug dealers, and robbers – what kind of family unit is this? And people wonder how something like this could happen. You lay with dogs you get fleas. It is just a crying shame that there are children involved. What kind of future did these children have any way? Would you let the grandmother raise the children? Hell no! She successfully raised a true criminal. There is no mention where any of the adults victims worked. No employer has stepped forward to mention their work ethics. That because they survived through the life of crime and followed the bloody path to hell.
“I think I’m getting a bone. My wife will be so happy. Hopefully, this time a little meat will be on it”
Be not deceived. Crime is not good no matter who commits it. The slave owners that got ahead in this Country were criminals. It effect everyone.
It is time that the black community do something about the serious conditions of Black on Black crime. That something will not come from politicians, preachers, or elected officials, because they have all had the chance and have given great speeches with no results. The cure to this problem that is destroying the Black community must start at home.
The criminal past of the male head of household has come back to haunt him. It is a shame that the children had to suffer. Thinking that someone else can make a difference is foolish. The only people that could of made a difference are the parents of the man who had a criminal past, but of course the mother is in denial. She should of stepped in when he was a juvenile.
WELL, IVE GOT GAS MY HUBBY WONT BE HAPPY..
The criminal past of the male head of household has come back to haunt him. It is a shame that I really don’t know what happened. But,I really don’t care, because I’m white! Thinking that I can make a difference is foolish. The only people that could of made a difference are the parents of the man who had a criminal past, but of course the mother is in denial…jut like mine! She should have stepped on me when I was a juvenile. Or, left him to me! I like little boys!
Hey, would someone pull my finger?
It is time that the white community stop whining about the serious conditions of Black on Black crime, and focus on white on white crime. That something will not come from politicians, preachers, or elected officials, because they have all had the chance and have given great speeches with no results. The cure to this problem that is destroying the white community must start at home. We need more drugs!
Now, don’t go trying to get some bug spray! I hate bug spray!
Be not deceived. Crime is not good no matter who commits it. The slave owners that got ahead in this Country were criminals. It effect everyone. So why blame us for building off of the foundation laid by our ancestors? I am NOT a criminal just because I believe lynching is good!
Are the schools out today???
Seems like the kids are on!
Hey Proud, I agree. This is a mess here. Between TJ and the real TJ and TJ posting under the names Fly on the Wall and The Real Fly on the Wall, it gets confusing. Going back through this entire thread, it appears that TJ is the instigator. Always has to be one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch.
Some quick solutions to fix Memphis From Someone who has no stake either way:
1. Quit quibbling over small meaningless issues. Like it or not you are on a national stage now, you have an NBA team, and your college team is kicking major butt. Good or bad they project your city to the nation. It’s time to fess up and start thinking like a big city and not a small town….more on this later (see #6).
2. Corruption will never go away, the only thing that changes is your opinion of the person doing the corrupting. If the guy in office is “your guy” you will always tolerate or overlook it. Again, coming from a big city I have grown up with corruption all my life. This is prevalent in every form of government at every level in many cities. You have a very unique situation here in that your garbagemen don’t need to be greased to pick up your garbage, nor do your firemen need to be taken care of to put out fires (yes, in NY/NJ it’s just that bad). It’s a part of and considered a perk of politics and truth be told as long as your public officials don’t go overboard with it then learn to live with it.
3. Crime goes down when opportunity goes up. It just that simple. This means attracting more employers to the area and this will only happen when the folks that live here get serious about growing this town. If you don’t take your town seriously then no one else will, especially a corporation bringing job and economic opportunity. Memphis has the potential to become the next Atlanta, but this will only happen when the people hold their public officials to an agenda that sets this path as a goal. Think big and you get big, think small and you get Mayberry.
4. Treat Your Police/Firemen With Respect and Dignity. In the north the job of policeman and fireman are looked at much differently than here. It’s not uncommon to see families of police/fire men and women. Some of my friends followed in the footsteps of their fathers and grandfathers being police and firemen. In fact, if you are a legacy recruit they often give you the same badge number as your Dad! Pay the police, have them hire the best and the brightest and you will see a big change in the method and productivity of the force.
5. Time to retire the good-old-boy mentality. Memphis will NEVER be a small town again, so those that want to keep it “the same as it was” need to move or get with the program. Change happens, and this town is in a serious state of change.
6. Scr@w Bartlett, Cordova and all the other little towns and municipalities. This is one city, and a rising tide will float all boats. This means putting aside the tit-for-tat squabbles between these towns and looking at the big picture. As Memphis grows so will these other towns. It’s time to look toward moving to a Greater Memphis Area rather than city/county squabbles because while the county is busy fighting itself take a quick look south, DeSoto/Southaven is seriously getting their act together and pulling revenue across the border.
Ex-Pat Northern-Carpet-Bagging-Job-Taking-and-home-owning SOB
I HATE BUG SPRAY ALSO. GLUE TRAPS WORKS MUCH BETTER.
At Anon:
Just tell your husband to bottle it and use it for the car.
At Anon:
I agree as I have been able to catch most of the rats in my crib using those glue traps.
“Treat Your Police/Firemen With Respect and Dignity.”
At ExPat Northerner:
The police have to learn to respect my people first before we can give them any respect.
“I think honestly that there is a wrong standard being taught by a lot of the parents in the black community that sends a message to their kids that this is ok.”
At Proud:
You are stupid and bigoted to think that it is only the black community who teach wrong standards. What about the white boys who shoot up their schools and do meth all the time. Buffoon.
Hey, can everyone imagine how nice Memphis would be if native memfricans committed crimes at the same rate as the bwanas?
Could you just imagine that????
Let’s see, in 2007 out of ~165 murders, whites did just 2 of them.
Me, oh my, … there may have been less than 10 murders for the entire year.
“Me, oh my, … there may have been less than 10 murders for the entire year”
At Fly:
You must be a bigot to say something like that.
“Me, oh my, … there may have been less than 10 murders for the entire year”
At Fly again:
You must be lousy at math. There would have been 5 murders, dummy!
At Fly again:
You must be good at math. There would have been 1,000 murders, retard!
““Me, oh my, … there may have been less than 10 murders for the entire year””
At myself:
I must be a bigot to say that.
I must take my leave of you, my mob of cretins.
I will be making my first statement of fact regarding the memfrica condition at approximately 6:00 AM.
Study up,
Fly
I urge all of my black brothers to visit this cite: http://www.bondinfo.org. It really helped me to understand that all of my failures cannot be attributed to the white man. Although, I am still receiving intensive counseling to help me deal with my hatred, this cite will help you.
Great post, Mister TJ! I knew you weren’t all bad.
Great message at that link.
“I agree as I have been able to catch most of the rats in my crib using those glue traps. Some of them were my best friends.”
I urge all of my white brothers to visit this cite: http://www.bondinfo.org. It really helped me to understand that all of my failures cannot be attributed to the black man. Although, I am still receiving intensive counseling to help me deal with my hatred, this cite will help you.
It’s also a dreat excuse website for bigots like me!
Great post, Mister Fly! I knew you weren’t all bad..although it’s odd that I have to pat myself on the back. I guess my medicine isn’t working properly.
Great message at that link. I recommend it for every bigot!
I must take my leave of you, my mob of cretins. It’s time for my spring bath.
I will be making my first statement of fact regarding the meurope condition at approximately 6:00 AM.
Study up,
Fly
Does anybody have any cow manure?
To ExPat Northerner:
That is serious. I congradulate you on your opinion. Your right on ALL of your points. The major problem in Memphis is the leadership.
Your right about corruption and it will always be there. What I think is that when corruption is in your face like it is with the mayor and the city council, you have to really look at it and make decisions as a voter to do something about it. I really don’t see the majority of people looking at what is really happening, I see it as the majority voting for a man for his color and not the content.
I am not racist and I don’t want you to feel like I am throwing out a racist statement because I am not. The Character of the mayor is questionalble, and no one is holding his feet to the fire and challening him. Not that face stuff the media does, but actually holding him accountable for his actions.
Then there is the extreme difference of opinion of the two major races in Memphis. It is Caucasians against African Americans. Again, stop looking at color, but the content of every person. It really doesn’t matter which race commits the most crime, the objective is to stop crime.
I think that the leadership in Memphis is driving jobs away from Memphis. The mayor or the city council will not do anything to commit to stop crime, will not do anything to bridge the race gap. They are doing everything to perpetuate it.
Until all the voters in Memphis wants a change in leadership, it will always be a major city with a small town mentality. People have to change thier thinking and maybe vote for someone that is interested in making Memphis the capitol of the south.
Peace to ExPat Northerner!!
If that was the real TJ, I will do as “your people” have tried so hard to instruct you. I will not dignify your name calling with a in kind remark. So, poof!
To everyone:
Here is another worthwhile website with a fantastic message.
http://www.blackmeninamerica.com/12.htm
12 Things The Negro Must Do For Himself by Nannie Helen Burroughs
(Circa Early 1900’s)
R-E-M-E-M-B-E-R
In spite of race prejudice, America is brim full of opportunities. Go after them!
Actually, respect given to you starts with you giving it to others. UNtil you can show respect you must not expect it.
what are you talking about, Proud?
““Me, oh my, … there may have been less than 10 murders for the entire year””
At myself:
I must be a bigot to say that. I agree that I am incredibly stupid.
“I urge all of my black brothers to visit this cite: http://www.bondinfo.org.”
At Fly:
Thank you for sharing this web cite. If my people would dump Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Louis Farrakan, and all of the other race pimps and learn to listen to the life-saving message of REAL MEN and REAL LEADERS such as Jesse Lee Peterson, Bill Cosby, J.C. Watts, then we as a people would be a lot better off.
At PEB:
I don’t understand why my people keep voting for Willie Herenton. He has done nothing to help my people. He hires convicted felons to fill patronage jobs and keeps spending money on basketball arenas that hardly any of my people can even afford to go to. I voted for him the first time. But after that, I knew the game he was playing. He is so stupid.
“Me, oh my, … there may have been less than 10 murders for the entire year”
At Fly again:
You must be lousy at math.
You finally confessed a truth. There is no hope for you, but keep trying anyway.
It should not matter if you are black or white. You should respect life and mankind. I have lived in the Memphis area for almost 60 years and have seen a lot of change both good and bad. I believe Memphis will not change for the better until they finally realize they need to vote in a mayor that takes pride in this once great city. The current mayor is just as bad as the criminals committing the crimes. After this mayor brought down the Memphis City School system he is now bringing down the whole city of Memphis.
WAKE UP MEMPHIS AND REALIZE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THIS CITY!!!!!!
At Proud:
If you can’t handle the truth about how evil your people are, then you are just as bigoted and stupid as Fly and Anon. Poof yourself!
AT T.J.
“Thank you for sharing this web cite. If my people would liten to REAL leaders Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Louis Farrakan, and all of the other people who are proud of their heritage and learn to not to listen to the stupidity and figer pointing message of REAL MEN and white people wanna be’s such as Jesse Lee Peterson, Bill Cosby, J.C. Watts, then we as a people would be a lot better off.
Thank you for sharing this web cite. If my people would dump Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulton, David Horowitz, and all of the other race pimps and learn to listen to the life-saving message of REAL MEN and REAL LEADERS such as Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Al Franken, and others then we as a people would be a lot more like humans and not bigots.”
I don’t understand why some people keep whining about Willie Herenton. He has done nothing but try to help the people. He hires convicted felons to fill patronage jobs and keeps spending money to try to improve the image of this city but hardly any of my people support him. I didn’t vote for him the first time becasue he is black. And after that, I didn’t vote for him because he was more qualified than anyone else, and I couldn’t handle that. I am so stupid.
Hey, hey, hey, everyone calm down please.
I have been watching this thread off and on, and not only did Fly on the Wall instigate this whole personality switching thing, but he has been borrowing several personalities besides just TJ’s. He lives to stir up this kind of anger and resentment. He’s using other people’s identities to try to get you all arguing with each other. Most of the posts on here that say TJ, the real TJ, etc., were really written by Fly/news hound.
When George gets back, I’m sure he’ll fix it where Fly can’t rip off other people’s identities and stir the pot like this. Until then, please try not to get mad at one another, as that’s exactly what Fly wants.
And for me, this is my last post of the day, so if you see another one attributed to me you will know that I did not actually write it. I’ll see you guys tomorrow. Have a good one!
I am not going to respond to any more of this nonsense regardless of who is typing. You see, I have more respect for myself than to get drawn into you folks mess. If you sling stuff you will wear stuff. I can ahndle anything that is factual but not BS.
Same here. It’s been fun, but I would never agree with the likes of J.C. Watts or that other guy, aside from Cosby( and I don’t agree with him, either). And Fly is a lower form of life. I’m done for today…
One last thing. Proud, you’re a bigot and your name is stupid. So is yours Whitey. Now I’m done for today…
Dang I’m so confused ,I dont know who I am anymore
Thats Mr.Whitey to you A*S*S* FER BRAINS
Hey Whitey (if it is you) glad to see you back. I am like that character with the eyes waving back and forth cause he is so dizzy.LOL This is crazy!!
“When George gets back, I’m sure he’ll fix it where Fly can’t rip off other people’s identities and stir the pot like this. ”
Maybe George will also ban the other individual (TJ) on here who continually berates others with degrading names when they have a differing view on matters. Let’s give equal treatment and nip both problems in the bud.
Proud…I don’t know who that guy is, but he ain’t me. To prove I am the real one, remember the “prayer”? I did not call you anything of the sort.
George does not need to ban TJ for his point of view. If he bans TJ then he better ban my fat A.S.S.
You people beat anything I ever heard of.Just because someone has a different point than you got , you want to silence him. Mr.Whitey don’t play that.You want to play that then go over to the eyemissed it news site and get on that blog. I’ve been banned there twice. They are as left liberal as you can get.
Anyone need any help ?
I got good for what ails you.
I am so upset about all of the crime in Memphis. I am from New Orleans, I moved hear back in 97 at that time, I didn’t hear of much crime, yes there was some but not like now. It was really bad in New Orleans and now Memphis is the same way.
I agree, Mr. Whitey, I don’t think he should be banned either. OK TJ, got it man. Not a problem. I just am not going to respond to the BS anymore because I am feeding the idiots that wish to pump that crap out there. I know we are all better than they are. OK?
Another outsider who doesn’t like our city.
Hey, how bout a courtesy flush over there bud.
NOW, I know the kids are on. “Stool softener” that has what I need ROFLM fat AO!
Enema anyone?!?? LOL
“You people beat anything I ever heard of.Just because someone has a different point than you got you want to silence him.” Mr. Whitey
What beats me is why you and others encourage the guy named TJ when he is being outright mean and rude to others that have a different point of view.
St. Charles, check out this website http://memphiscrime.blogspot.com/
It’s not Fly/news hound’s point of view that gets him banned, it’s that he doesn’t play by the rules. His language is often very profane, but of course he can’t get away with that here because of the filter. He switches identities, sometimes even pretending to be black and saying purposefully ignorant things to make white people mad at blacks. He often writes a post under one name and then a minute later posts a “what a great post” reply to his first one with a different name. He often steals other people’s identities, as he’s done with several people on this blog today. He clogs up the blogs with multiple misleading and/or inane posts, making them so long that people don’t want to bother sifting through to read the important posts. And he is very insulting and starts calling names when someone doesn’t agree with his point of view.
I’ve seen him at work on other sites. He’s a racist, no doubt, but if he could be respectful of everyone else on this blog he would be tolerable. However, he’s also a liar, a cheat and a fraud and he’s ruining this blog like he already has several others. I’ve been watching him and he tried to be on his best behavior for a few days since he’s running out of blogs. But his true colors came out today. Unless George finds a way to ban or at least control him, this exchange of ideas is doomed.
Grizz
Thats where you are wrong. We don’t encourage anything. TJ has been TJ since he has come here. He name call as most liberals do. If you want nice then eyemisseditnews.com is the place for you. It would be very boring if everyone had the same point of view. He dont get vulgar with the names. His favorite name is bigot. Is that what you are? Sticks and stones may brak my bones, but liberals shall never harm me.Grizz, you need to thicken up your skin a little bud.
This newshound bull crap needs to cease if anything. Most of us just don’t care.
NEXT !
I don’t either
This thing has been dumping my posts again this evening. Do they have like night time filters on this?
We have never had a topic get this many posts. this should be 398
399
400
At Grizz fan:
When have I ever been rude? And, the grizzlies suck!
The Tigers DON’T!
I’ll see all of yall later. Got things to do!
I hope Tiger fans don’t go too crazy against UAB Saturday. Their players and coached weren’t to blame for that mess in Birmingham. I know a couple of people who mentioned wearing some of those orange construction overalls with the sleeves cut off and a big slap/handprint on their face. That Larry the Cable Guy in Birmingham was too easy to make fun of.
At Tiger’s Fan:
Remeber the Patiots! Don’t mean a thing if you don’t finish the deal (and I graduated from Memphis, so I kinda like them.)
Hello All,
Just saw on 3 where local pastors are asking for donations for funerals for the folks killed on Lester street, correct me if I am wrong, but dosen’t the Ford Families own atleast 2 funeral homes in Memphis?? Perhaps Ed Ford could donate the services and make up for the screwing of Memphis taxpayers for all these years?? Just a thought, this is their chance to step up and show their true community spirit. Can I get a Hell Yea on this??
Dirk
I don’t think the Fords are going to take on this case, especially if none of the victims have any insurance or money.
Hell yeah , Dirk
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr.Dirk Diggler has spoken.
Hey ,I just noticed something , my last comment was comment 5145 on The Rant.
TJ
I believe that our community wants and African American in office so bad, that they will overlook everything. Is Bobby OJ still on the air? Is he still a big mayor backer? I asked my mother and father and they don’t know why he is still in office. I know that they both voted for Morris. I wish I knew why.
Everyone, please read into the post, you can figure out if the real person has posted or that thing impersonating someone. Childish!
Dirk,
I am sorry, but I don’t think the Fords that are in Memphis that runs the funeral homes will not step up. They, like the mayor, are about self instead of the community. I wish they were like their brother and nephew, Harold and Harold Jr.
Bobby OJ is a bigot and is stupid.
Three Teens Arrested For Stealing And Selling Guns
Memphis, TN 3/6/06
Two of the boys were just 12 years old.
.
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And the stupid bigots, Al Sharpton, Judge Victor Hill, Attorney Javier Bailey and his societal misfit, Thaddeus Matthews, still continue their witch hunt against Officer Erik Sammis. Shame, shame, shame.
PEB, every single Ford member are so stupid and bigoted.
Fly you almost got me.
At Grizz fan:
When have I ever been rude? And, my momma sucks!
“If you want nice then eyemisseditnews.com” Mr. Whitey
No, Mr. Whitey, George Brown wants NICE…remember, it is HIS board.
If you have a problem with niceties or with the request of Mr. Brown, then why don’t you find a forum that is more to your liking. And please feel free to take your child with you. Thanks in advance.
Grizz Fan, what’s your point?
Governor offers $50,000 reward in Lester Street slayings
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/mar/06/governor-offers-50000-reward-lester-street-slaying/
Now THIS is how I would expect our mayor to act. I’m sure Herenton’s going to be mad that he’s been upstaged by the governor and the city council, both of which did more than offer thoughts and prayers while absolving themselves of any responsibility.
Mayor Herenton, I would like to remind you again that you are a public servant, and in times like this your constituents, those who pay your salary whether they voted for you or not, expect and need strong leadership. DO SOMETHING to stop all this violent crime in Memphis, or find someone who can.
Excuse me Mary, Did I pull your chain? I dont need to be reminded of what I say. I said it,I don’t regret it. I stand by it.George Brown and I are on the same page more than you know. You’re another person who doesn’t agree with certain peoples views on here, and thats fine . I don’t either. You on the other hand want to ban them from The Rant. Just as a dictator closes down a radio station because they don’t share his views. I was here long before you came , I’ll be here long after you are gone .
Top of the evening to ya.
Oh, one other thing. Who is my child supposed to be?
Main it jez don’t beez lettin up rount heain
What’s up Mr. Whitey? You got a “child” you didn’t know you had? All of us guys have that fear huh?
I agree I don’t think these whiny hineys need to tell us when to leave, they need to.
nuff said!
That was my weak attemp at Ebonics
Hey proud, did you see what Mary said? How did she get her type bold like that?
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Yes, I saw it she prolly did it from her email and copied it??? I guess. That is cool Mary, tell us how you got your’s fat? I mean bold LOL
LIKE THIS?
Watch it Fonz, Mary’s here, she might run over to you and swoon…
OOPS, I meant like this.
Did I get it right this time?
Yeah, that too Anon
Ummmmmm, what will you give this liberal in turn for that sensitive information? Just a little bone, please???
Like JFK was OK, or the Swift Boat Veterans were wrong for what they did to Kerry, or that the ACLU ain’t so bad? (OK, maybe I reached on that last one, but you gotta admit Mr. Whitey took an ACLU stance on that no censorship thing).
how do you make it bold like that? Oh as far as JFK goes, I think he was great and would be ashamed of fat brother Ted.JFK and Ted. Two different types of liberals.
gotta go. nite
Thanks for the JFK thing. Still need something from Proud, so don’t let him read this until he says something nice about a liberal, any liberal. (hee hee)
It’s HTML code, but really easy. Before the first word you want in bold, you type open bracket, then the letter b, then close bracket. (Use actual brackets, with the letter b in between. If I type the actual brackets here you will not be able to see them when they convert to HTML.) After the last word you want in bold, type open bracket, then a back slash, then b, then close bracket. No spaces.
You can do the same with the letter “i” instead of “b” for italics.
Have a good night.
Goodnight all you kikes and spics and nips and gooks and honkeys and krauts…. oh, an you too all mighty censor protected “N-words.”
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
This is kind of funny its King Willie
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XN6U-sw_Xoc
This also
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7KSyNUK9d_c
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/mar/07/kids-survived-brutal-attack/
I don’t think anything the mayor does is going to make many of the idiot consevatives happy. Offering money to helo solve these murders sends the wrong message. It may well get one of the offenders to turn on his cohorts and make a deal with the prosecution for his testimony when he needs to be in jail alongside his buddies. Get off Willie’s jock!
Anon, I read it naaahh naahh nahhhh LOL
Something nice about a liberal…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….ahhhh it took a while. Pelosi has a pretty smile! Nice rack too LOL sorrreeee that was a little much.
WHOA them dots went crazy!!
Sorrreeee yalll didn’t know that would happen.
I agree Tj, the money is only a draw to make a guilty person roll on a bud. I am not for the reward thing in most cases. Certainly not this one.
Get off Willie’s jock? NOW, you lost me on that one.
MONEY TALKS.
What I mean is , there has been a lot of criticism of the mayor by people who feel he’s too “arrogant” or whatever. That is a personal opinion that has nothing to do with his leadership. In a time of unimaginable tragedy, all people do not respond the same way. I think he is doing the best he can, given the circumstances.
HE AN “ARROGRANT PRICK”.
HE’S OOPS
TJ, I voted for him twice, so I feel I’m justified in criticizing Herenton. I used to like him and thought he was really sincere about improving this city. He did some great things downtown and in other poorer neighborhoods surrounding downtown. When I met him personally (before he became mayor), he was warm, gracious, intelligent and easy to talk to.
But he lost his grip on reality during his third campaign for mayor, has become an egomaniac with a huge chip on his shoulder and has become totally ineffective as a mayor. Crime is out of control, and he is putting his cronies in high-paying positions while ruining several city services, especially the library. He cannot work well with anyone in the suburbs or the county and just refuses to deal with anyone whom he thinks doesn’t like him.
Quite frankly, I think the only person Willie Herenton cares about any more is Willie Herenton. When he started losing business support, he pandered to the poverty-stricken black citizens of Memphis, whom he promptly forgot about as soon as he won his fourth term.
Quite frankly, I am embarra*s*sed that he is our mayor.
Poor George is gonna be up half the night reading all these posts when he gets back.
Anyway, I hope we get a LOT of snow!
Of course anyone who knows anything about this crime SHOULD step forward with the information just because it’s the right thing to do. But let’s be real. This person probably knows something about the crime because he or she is also a criminal with close ties to the murderer/s. Whoever committed this crime is a cold-blooded, heartless murderer of six people, more than likely in a gang and certainly willing to kill again. Whoever speaks out will be risking his own life. There has to be some real enticement to warrant putting yourself at so much risk.
I have just heard the little boys that were victims of the Lester Street murders were also castrated. I don’t care what anybody says now; I want those butchers dead!!!
Mornin’!, or YO! to all.
Let’s try and act like adults today … TJ, PEB, MEMPHIAN, etc.
You know who you are.
Thud Matthews is claiming it was the work of the MS-13 gang.
Looks like it could be …
Hey RP, where have you been? This is by FAR the biggest response I think that the Rant has of any topic and it is still going. You asked a while back how many comments would this get. I wasn’t sure BUT, I definitely missed my guess! It could go 500 or more now. Especially if the kids keep mimicking the “real” poster here.
TJ, I think some of what you say is true that WW get some criticism that goes personal. BUt, the man has not done anything to reach across racial lines to try and heal or set an example of such. He should have gone to the scene the other night and tried to at least make an appearance for the sake of his political reputation. If he was not so egotistical he could do stuff like that and whether or not he was serious it would at least give appearance. You know what I mean? Politics is like that some folks need to see you even if they don’t support you or you don’t even agree with them.
I realize this particular rant is a FREE FOR ALL, but please, can you at least state your
comments in a civil and intelligent manner? In most cases, it has turned into a bickering
contest between a few that no one else is interested in. The number of posts on this particular rant has reached about 450, but it is because those same few have nothing to say but
biting and jabbing comments, usually one to five words.
I am sure this is not what George had in mind when he started this Rant. People, try to keep
your posts interesting if you will.
Fly, please just keep your mouth clean and free of the crap you pump out here? It would be nice to stop your stuff and let some people simply comment.
Isn’t it interesting that thud matthews is hollering, and whining for ZERO TOLERANCE law enforcement when he suspects someone other than blacks are beginning to commit violent & vicious crimes???
I suppose it was alright, by his standards, when he thought the really vicious stuff eas being perped by blacks on everyone.
Different mindset now.
Go figure?????
Good Morning Memphian, I remember years back hen a family of guys named Tiller kind of ruled the Memphis bar scene and joints. They ran rough shod over lots of nice good ole boys just drinking some beer and such. Anyway, they got pretty bad for a while and sometimes got locked up and even were rumored to have murdered a few folks. Well along came a former Green Beret man that was sitting on this street up in midtown one night and he witnessed one of them killing a person. The Tillers were used to intimidating their witnesses on the stands with eye contact and such. Then the witenss would get scared and suddenly remember nothing.
Well in the trial for this murderer the same thing happened and the Green Beret just stared him back and stared him down and testified for the prosecution. Guess what, Tiller went to jail.
I can go on and on with that family and similar stories even some I was involved in. When you stand up to bad folks they go down!
At Fly:
I think you need to take you own advice. You knew I would never agree with your stupidity; in fact, very few people do. So, you had to create someone who complimented you. You are pathetic. You don’t tell black people what to do (from yesterday) or who to support. You stay in your place, and I won’t borrow your name as you did mine yesterday.
MS-13? C’mon. I think five heavily tattooed, as**sault-gun toting, drunk Guatemalans might have drawn a little bit of attention riding around the neighborhood.
And honestly, Fly, very few people care about what Thaddeus Matthews has to say. Those that do can go visit his site. No need to rehash it here every day.
What the heck is an MS-13? Is that a new hemoroid medicine?
Proud, I’m a little bit younger than you I think (just a little), but I’ve heard stories about the Tillers from my dad and granddad. Wasn’t one of them in the news in the last couple of years? Can’t remember what the story was.
And good morning to you.
It’s a gang of Central Americans, trying to become the biggest, baddest gang in the U.S. They’re notoriously violent and murderous.
They’re also all over Central America. They wreak a lot of havoc in local areas.
OH, ok then they make homeroids go away. LOL
I don’t know about a couple of years ago on them. Probably so, there are a few still living outside. One, their cousin, was rumored killed and dumped in a hole in Miss. and they supposedly poured quick lime on him. This stuff dries up and disolves the body and bones. Or supposed to (I don’t know that for sure). His name was Michael.
My cousin owned a bar back then down on Lamar at Winchester (Americana Lounge”. He put them out along with a cabinet man that built cabinets for my dad. He grabbed them by the nap of the neck, one in each hand, and carried them out to parking lot and set them down and told them ehy weren’t pulling that stuff in his place. Some folks just need a firm hand an not some panty waist judge or “witness” facing them. Sometimes a bad person just needs his ARSE kicked.
That was my point in all of this, these thugs need someone to do to them what their daddys never ever did, KICK ‘em real hard. Then stand up to face them. These guys are like Dago, Albert and the rest of them, running over people who don’t stand up for themselves.
I used to work in med. to max. security prisons and you walk through looking worried or scared and you will get hurt. I walked through those places with NO radio. Not because I am bad. I was not about to let them see me worried. I walked with the Lord and when you do that you just don’t have to worry.
Yall all be blessed today. I will be in a few times oh heck I’ll be here a little longer LOL
Attributed to TJ:
“You knew I would never agree with your stupidity; in fact, very few people do.”
Back at ya, TJ:
The Fly’s comments are often denounced but seldom disputed. It doesn’t pay to dispute what you know to be true.
I always dispute you racism and stupidity. You just don’t acknowledge it. That’s more proof that your an immature mind.
Moreover, what you day is usually half-true at best; it’s never totally true. Like I said, stay in your place, and you’ll be alright.
At TJ: Here’s a Flyoid …
“One who disputes facts is known to be a fool.”
Why is it that everytime something happens in Memphis, BOTH sides cry racism?
As a mother it hurts to hear the stuff that is happening to OUR children…. If we looked at the people who are being killed like we would OUR CHILDREN we wouldn’t be looking at their race
Fly said: “The Fly’s comments are often denounced but seldom disputed…”
He left out “AND BEST IGNORED.”
Hey, Proud, found the story. George Tiller was arrested last year for selling prescription painkillers. In this Flyer story, he talks about the old days and his family.
http://www.memphisflyer.com/memphis/Content?oid=oid%3A35852
At MEMPHIAN:
Good grief … you want to ignore facts???
OK now that I’ve done the sensitive mother post…. Why as a white person am I labeled a racist if I disagree with a black person? My best friend happens to be a black woman and she AND her mother would disagree that I am racist!
EXTREMELY good point Katie’s Mom!
OMG, I’m getting another boner!!!!
This is two in two days, a new personal record.
The wife told me to head for home, FAST, if it happened again.
BBL, gang!
GO MEMPHIS PRIDE!
I LOVE MEMPHIS!
So much for Fly behaving. He’s already impersonating me. I’ll be leaving now as the juvenile delinquent is again taking over this blog with his childish behavior. Have a good day everyone. Hope the rest of you can get a word in edgewise.
Hey Memphian, I went and read the story. I was mistaken on the cousin thing. I thought I remembered him as a cousin (Michael). Good story on him and pretty accurate. I think it had some wirter’s spin too it though. The comment down there on the bottom was kind of like these sisters sayingthese are good people of these gang bangers and stuff. It always amazes me how family just doesn’t see thugs for thugs. Of course I guess I would be seeing the best in my kids too if the shoe was on my foot.
Have a good one Memphian!
Memphis should be a great place for everyone to come together and celebrate our history. Our city should be known world wide for our music and for our love of music… not for brutal murders and for racial tension…. We need to take back our city! ALL of us!!! Black, White, Latino….. This is OUR town! Get the thugs, crooked politicians and make our city the great place it could be.
At Fly:
It also says, “Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. You’re still talking. Soon as you produce some “facts”, I just might be impressed.
At Katie’s Mom:
Racism is mainly used because for some like Fly, everything “proves” that whites are superior. For some, it’s an effective tool to fight off a legitimate criticism. Then too, there are some bigots in this city, and they are rampant.
Hi Katie’s Mom,
I agree. There are good and bad on both sides, and we shouldn’t allow the bad ones to ruin things for the rest of us. They want us to hate each other, but we should rise above.
Hey Folks,
I want to ask yall to go to this link and hear this awesome singing. This is America!!
Have a GREAT one!
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKCVS57j284
TJ,
I may disagree with some of the things I’ve seen you write over the past weeks(been having problems getting my posts up so I’ve been silently watching what was going on) but I have to say that you put it WELL when you said “Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
If you look at the number of people who live in our city…. and the number of people committing these crimes (not only in the city limits of Memphis, but in the surrounding areas like Bartlett, and Germantown, etc) the good, quiet, law abiding citizens WAY out number the bad….. Yet those of us who ARE good, productive citizens have to live our lives in fear of the thugs (thugs to me is ANYONE who can’t obey the law… including our crooked politicians!) For years I thought my husband was overreacting to the crime by getting his carry permit…. now… I am in the process of getting mine! I HAVE to protect my child…. Why should we have to carry a gun to pick our kids up from school? Right now our news should be rated “M” for mature bc of all the violence going on…. and in the midst of ALL of that our elected mayor of Memphis who was “Ordained by God to be the mayor of Memphis” is saying ON television that people flooding the streets with prayer won’t help the crime problem!? Am I the only one that caught that and had SERIOUS issues with that statement? NOT flooding our streets with prayer is what got us where we are!
Being white and coming from a middle cla-s-s background, it would be too easy for me to sit back and judge the adults killed on Lester Street. But I can only speak in hypotheticals, because I really can’t relate to what they went through. While the two men were apparently violent and thieves, those two young women are the ones who really make me sad. Perhaps I missed it, but Marissa Williams apparently did not have a criminal record. I imagine her upbringing was not so great, as she made some very bad decisions in her adult life. She had three children out of wedlock by this man, then left him after he physically abused her, then went back to him and had another child out of wedlock. It just doesn’t seem like she ever had much going for her or had much self-respect that she would stay with him, especially knowing that he was a violent criminal who was prone to abuse.
And Shindri Roberson, he parents were drug addicts and she was on her own at age 14, dropped out of school, then turned to prostitution and drugs. What kind of life, chance or choices did this young woman ever have? Her offenses were so-called victimless crimes, but it sounds like she was pretty much a victim her entire life.
Anyway, my point is that I can certainly understand the animosity toward the men who were killed, but they still did not deserve what happened to them. The young women had apparently never hurt anyone else but made bad decisions that might (MIGHT) have led to their demise, but they did not deserve to die for loving the wrong men. And the children, those poor children, they most certainly did not deserve to die or be critically injured and left to die for days.
A little more compa-s-sion is in order here.
Flyoid:
“Prayers work best when you put legs on them.”
I completely agree with you Anon. I have stated that for those babies to be hurt absolutely breaks my heart. Those women made bad choices true… I don’t think they deserved to die for those choices. Unfortunately there are THOUSANDS of women that stay in those violent relationships (of ALL races and backgrounds… not just poor women). Some take a great risk and leave with little more than the tattered clothes on their backs… others stay hoping he will change. My mother-in-law was one that chose to stay… she and her three children were abused until my husband got old enough and bold enough to stand up to his cowardly father… not all women in that situation are as lucky as she was. Through all of the years of abuse she started to believe that she wasn’t worthy of anything better….. her daughter has the same mindset…. AS parents we have to know that our choices will dictate how our children think when they are older. If we choose to have children out of wedlock and don’t try to better our situation while they are young…. they are going to repeat our mistakes….
My hope for those three children who survived this horrible event is that they are given a MUCH better life than they would have gotten. I’m sure their mothers would have wanted that for them.
Do all you can do ………when all else fails: PRAY
I noticed what the Mayor said about prayer. I thought it was King Willie’s way of throwing a slur at the church who publicly prayed for the Schools. I admire the church that would take time to leave their warm comfortable building and go to the school and actually pray for the students and school leaders. If God doesn’t help Memphis, there is no help.
Like I said before, it is sad when our Mayor says to us, he has no answers.
The last time I heard, the city of Memphis was paying him over $200,000 a year in salary to lead the City. A person in this salary range is expected to produce results or get fired. It is sad that we can’t fire him. We have him for another four years.
I don’t know the answer to the crime problem. I do know that the Mayor and the City Council and the Police Department should be informing the citizens some kind of solution. Even if the solution doesn’t work at least we would know they are trying to solve the problem.
If they act as if there is no solution, then the city looses hope.
Without a vision the people perish.
I am praying for God’s guidance in running for the next Mayor of Memphis.
I read in the Communist Appeal this morning that one of the surviving children had a knife stuck in the side of his head when found and another had two fingers cut off. they were still alive but, imagine what those two little ones will have imbedded in their minds. I tell ya, just catch these idiot or idiots and set them down in a super max prison, put the word out that they killed and mamed children……won’t have a cost of prison housing for them.
I agree totally, Proud. Just kill these clowns.
I couldn’t agree more!!!
Killing the women and the men is bad enough. But, when they kill and mame kids, innocent victims, they went WAAAAAAY over the line.
See TJ, we agree!!!! LOL good to have an agreement!!!!
Imagine what it would be like if everyday at noon, People all over Memphis prayed for the city of Memphis. Ask God to help us and to help our City. Ask God to give us guidance as to the steps we should take to regain our City.
I will start today. I would encourage each of you to join me. I encourage each of you to tell others about this.
This is something we all can do. Whatever your beliefs are. Whoever you call God. Ask your God to help our City.
Ask your Church to Pray for this City.
Imagine all races coming together in prayer. That is the first step of unity.
Morning all,
Well, since TJ let the cat out, I found out a couple of days ago from an in law in the medical field that the adults were castrated too. I didn’t know about the children. Before this we were known as the most violent city, but this takes it to a whole new level. I can’t even find a word to describe it. It troubles me that human beings that live 20 minutes west of me live in a place that resembles the Middle East.They can’t get out even if they wanted to. Whats even more troubling is thet they’ve gotten acoustomed to it. It disturbs me for the elderly as much as the young. I think its wrong to say that prayer won’t help. When two or more are gathered in his name. I’m sure sorry this has happened. I truly am.
I agree Mr. Whitey and the key is the prayer. John, I agree, let’s all (those of us here on the Rant) commit to pray for this city, these families of the victims, the families of the survivors and lest we forget, the survivors. Especially these prcious one. Deal guys? I will, will you join John, myself, Mr. Whitey and…….. you name there?
YEP
precious*
Imagine what it would be like if everyday at noon, People all over Memphis prayed for the city of Memphis. Ask God to help us and to help our City. Ask God to give us guidance as to the steps we should take to regain our City.
I’m sorry, this is just not the way. This is the lazy way out, let God handle it, whew, now my conscious is clear.
The answer is activism my friends, something that seems to be foreign in these parts. You can say what you want about the Sharpton’s of the world but if nothing else he is a clear example of how much power a single man can have in affecting the political process. Granted he tends to misuse this power, however that doesn’t negate the fact that over and over he demonstrates how a committed group of people can hold the mayor and so-called city leaders to task for their actions.
Rather than praying gather your church members, hold a press conference and demand answers. I guarantee you that if you get enough people he WILL answer. He’ll have to.
It’s alarming to me to see the wealth and power of these mega-churches being rendered impotent because the church leaders either don’t know the political power they wield or don’t care.
Ex-Pat-Carpet-Bagging-Northener
This is a start, that’s 3 of us.
“Where two or more are gathered in His name, so is He, in your midst”
I’m in
The courts are too easy on the criminals.
We give them free food, comfortable rooms with color TV.
We drop the charge to a less crime. If they know the right person with the right connections, then the criminals really get off light.
I know people who think it makes them a man to make a woman pregnant. Some men will have babies by 3 or 4 women and go around bragging about this is my child with that woman, and this is my child by another woman. I hear that all the time at work.
Some men think it makes them a man to kill someone or rob someone and to go to Jail. That is suppose to mean they are tough or Cool.
What happened? When did we stop telling our children that a REAL MAN, is one of responsibility, integrity, honesty, trustworthy, well mannered men that have children with their wife.
Hey ExPat, no one is saying not being involved or agting. On the contrary, it is in addition too.
I had a feeling Katie’s MOM would be in, thanks there!
Proud,
That may be so, but what I see here are Christian cop-outs. Not one post has yet addressed structured and organized activism.
Politics marches to the tune of money. The best way to get attention is to either interrupt the flow of money, or create a bigger one.
Ex-Pat
By the way, having grown up in NY, the magic of Al Sharpton is his ability to interrupt the flow of political money. That’s why politicians (and the media) respond to him.
Ex-Pat
He works through fear! He’s a coward!
whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pa-ss; he shall have whatsoever he saith. Mark 11:23
Anyone with TRUE faith in God has got more power than any of those “Activists”
We’re not saying that. It doesn’t have to be just prayer. It’s also in what you pray for.Guidence for ourselves and the leaders.Guidence to show us what to do.
If you discount prayer,then you don’t have a prayer.
Oh I admit,sitting on our rears in front of these computers belly aching about it won’t help .
Making this a better city starts with ourselves. All these people talking that so and so was good.My cousin was a good person.I’m sorry, thats not so, and thats not going to get it.I ‘m almost 50 and I know what a good person is. Black or white. 99% of those people sitting in jail whether is be im Memphis or in Sweeden are not good people. Now some may end up being good people. I thing MOST of you know what I’m talking about.
The good in us starts with us. DANG, am I getting soft or what.
Personally marches in my opinion are not my thing to do. I prefer to see a church praying, and then serving (helping the kids in inner city and prison, homeless shelters etc) with food, rebuilding homes and lives and teach kids how to not repeat their environments they grew up in. Teaching a kid to respect and not to hurt as a way of manhood. Teaching them gang banging is not a man’s way but a cowards way. Teaching them that respect starts with you giving it then getting it back. Jesus never went around marching. He went around loving and teaching a better way and He didn’t condemn He loved. You see like me He has loved a lot of people that NEVEr deserved it. If I got what I deserved instead of what He offered then I wouldn’t be here today.
So, that is what churches are supposed to be doing. Showing Jesus’ love to other people. Helping them up not kicking them down.
I type too slow.
What ever happened to 3 strikes you’re out and the noe plead deals thing. Wow, that didn’t last long.
Hi Katies Mom,
I belelive that you are absolutly correct in your answer. The reason why that is a a “racial” thing because that is all that Memphis can hang his hat on, race. It has gotten worse since the mayor has been in office. Even he has said things about the Caucasian race that was absurd.
Even on this Rant, you see Caucasians though stones at African Americans. I believe that the only way that this will change for the majority (because some of the people that blogs on this page do have solid points and are trying to solve this issue) is from the top, down. I mean from the mayor to the city council, to the school system, to the police department, and down from there.
Peace to Katie’s Mom
Jesus sort of marched. Look what he did in the temple when they were selling goods in there.
Hey Proud. What is going on man. Mr Whitey top of the day to you. TJ whats going on?
Oh I completely agree! It makes my stomach churn when I hear the people complaining about the media briging out one of the guy’s criminal past. You are in death what you were in life. I don’t agree with trying to make someone sound better than they were just bc they are dead. If he’s so ashamed of his friend’s past then he obviously was ashamed of his friend when he was alive…
Well, in a sort of way He marched. He “cleared the temple”. I’d say He weilded not marched LOL
You’re not Soft Mr. Whitey, you’re compas*sionate and that is humility. It is a Jesus thing actually.
PEB,
you’re right, but in this instance this isn’t something to throw stones at. Like I say, this is at a whole new level, and we ALL better hope its not the s-h-a-p-e of things to come. Like Barney Fife would say,they need to ”nip this in the bud”.
Gotta go God bless , be nice
C-Ya
Hey PEB! Glad to see you out this morning. How’s the mile high doing? Brrrr it’s cold here. Supposed to be snowing today. arghhhhh it’s pretty but then all that snow makes me wonder if the NAACP will want equal time. LOL that was a joke.
Glad to see you today!
Thank you PEB for your kind words.
As for Jesus destroying the temple… He was flesh too…
Please know that was a joke yall. I guess I shouldn’t joke sometimes. I hear old Red Skelton do that line here at the old Holday Rivermont a loooong time ago
what do you call a bunch of blacks walking in the snow???
Black ice
OH, I really understand why He cleared the Temple. He was mad about His Father’s house being shamed by the trading and money changing. You’re right.
We would have some bigoted idiot trying to use some racist banter and call it a “joke”. I am sick of these bigots.
I am talking about “Frost for Brains”, not you Proud.
Thanks, I was trying to ignore his butt
To Katie’s Mom: On the surface it may seem as if he (Al Sharpton) is manipulating fear, but that’s the media’s spin on Sharpton. I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that’s the only window you have to him. Fear-monger is the easily digestable answer. In reality though he recognizes the gas that runs politics and quite frankly it’s money. I don’t care the politician, they all rely on money to maintain their power. Take away the money and they become whining, crying children (hello John Ford!). I don’t agree with the man, but I do respect his methodology.
If you really want to take a peek into how religion and power work effectively take a look at Rev. Floyd Flake at Allen AME church. He’s a former Congressman who has become THE power broker for Queens NY (google him). Growing up Allen was always a large church, but now they have become major real estate owners and developers of small businesses in their area. Go near the church and you’ll see Allen Travel agency, Allen Senior Center, Allen Cleaners, Allen Apts. etc. Sure prayer works for change, but redeveloping the neighborhood around your church works a lot better.
If nothing else many churches here have the money and members, but not the drive or organization to become major players in the politics game.
Ex-Pat
You know that Frosty is probably Fly. He prides himself on coming up with what he considers clever names.
ExPat, I hear you loud and clear. I saw a quote somewhere recently that really summed it up:
“Hands that help are infinitely more useful than lips that pray.”
I don’t mean any disrespect to those of you who are religious, and I realize that you’re not saying that prayer alone will solve the problems. But some people really believe that praying alone is enough, when it’s obviously not.
Welll folks, it has been quiet and respectful today. I am going to go do some honey dos and get out of the house. Yall have a blessed day and remember, start praying folks. Oh, and working.
See yall later today!
I think that Sharpton and Jessie Jackson both only go where they think they will get the most recognition and fame. They don’t take into consideration the turmoil they leave for communities after they leave. Like most people… they may have a few good qualities and may accomplish a FEW good things… but when they cause riots and drive HUGE wedges into communities that are already under stress…. they completely reverse the good things they’ve done.
Faith without works is void! I don’t believe you can just sit on your hands and pray about it… That’s kinda like the beggar in the Bible that the deciples walked by and told him that they would pray for him rather than offering him food or clothing…. God puts people and opportunities in our lives for us to make a difference and help.
I really need to get some work done today. God help me to say this in the correct way.
The black churches have stepped in to try to help the Memphis Politics. I am not sure that it is in the correct way.
For example: Pastor Whalum, Jr. is a pastor of a very large Congregation. He has a large following on the radio also. But he speaks openly in ways that divide the Blacks and Whites in the community. (See other Rants)
There were some Black Pastors that talked to the County Mayor Wharton to run for City Mayor against King Willie in this past election. But Mayor Wharton refused to run against King Willie. The pastors were condemned by King Willie for talking to Mayor Wharton.
Many of the Black churchs preach and teach racism. I know because I have been in many of the black churchs and have heard them. Many will preach about how the white man is against the black men. Many will preach the black should only buy from the blacks. Whalum, Jr. supports a bust a move campaign where black churchs pick a black owned business each week and buy only from that black owned business. Listen to his daily radio broadcast at noon on 95.7 Halleujah FM
I listen to that radio station because I love gospel music and I am a musician myself.
I appreciate all who will join me in the prayer. I realize this is not the total answer. If you read what I wrote I said that prayer is the beginning of unity.
Right now it is the only answer I know. Thanks again. Please tell others.
Not, Imbecile!
The Fly doesn’t hurl racial barbs.
The Fly is all facts, all the time.
“arghhhhh it’s pretty but then all that snow makes me wonder if the NAACP will want equal time. LOL that was a joke.”
A joke that wasn’t funny and is part of the problem in this city. No different than the “black ice” joke.
Cecil Dotson and the other man lived by the sword and died by the sword. The shame is that he involved innocent children in his lifestyle.
“And, the grizzlies suck!”
And so does the Mayor of this city.
Wow, must be a hefty filter on some words since it eats posts from time to time.
Ex-Pat
I grew up Congregationalist then switched to Catholicism so seeing a Baptist (especially Fundamentalist Baptist) dominated view of things here is both educational and a bit disconcerting. If nothing else being raised Congregationalist has given me a much different view of the role of religion in the life of everyman, but that’s a conversation for a whole different topic.
If you’re not aware, the Congregationalist view (at least at the time I was active) stressed less importance on the structure of the Church (meaning the building), and more emphasis on the “body” of the church (meaning the members). Community service in some form or fashion was as important a duty as service to God and as a member you were obligated to your Community.
Ex-Pat
Three blacks arrested in last week’s Cordova home invasion
12:20 P.M., March 7, 2008
Detectives said one of the teenagers lives across the street from the victim’s house and acted as a lookout while the other two came in through an unlocked door at about 9 p.m.
The granddaughter, who is 2, was not physically harmed.
The 18-year-olds are RANGET Jefferson of Millington and RAKEYTA Jones, who was the alleged lookout.
At News Hound (a.k.a. Fly)
What about the father-son pair busted for manufacturing and sellilng meth? And, yes you do hurl racial barbs.
Pat, why is it that the Baptists are the one that are always wrong “fundamentalist”? Who said they were Baptist?
The bottom line on “church” is this. If you “believe that Christ died on the cross and was raised from the dead you will be saved”. That is Jesus speaking. You see, believing in your heart and confessing with your mouth makes you saved. Aceepting His free gift is what is needed for salvation. Fundamentalism is relative. The Bible says what it says and I, you nor anyone else can buffet the Bible as much as we’d like to at times. There are something in there that I would like not to be there simply to make my life easier. But, they are there to make my life free.
Now, if I am fundamentalist, then ok I am. But, I fear no man, I fear God.
“What about the father-son pair busted for manufacturing and sellilng meth? And, yes you do hurl racial barbs.”
Shut up!
Three Teens Arrested For Stealing And Selling Guns
Memphis, TN 3/6/06
Two of the boys were just 12 years old. The other one was 14. Sheriff’s deputies say the boys stole six guns out of a display case from Guns And Ammo on Summer Avenue last month. One of the boys said he traded a pistol for two cell phones and sold another one to a girl for $200.
18 year old Rickey wright was arrested and charged with illegal possession of a firearm. He told deputies the 14 year old gave him a gun as a favor. Deputies are still looking for other people who bought the stolen guns.
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Actually, it wasn’t really guns – it was a coke and a bag of potato chips they stole, wasn’t it Attorney Javier Bailey???
Proud, not understanding your question. In my view no one is right or wrong, just different.
As an outsider, Memphis, moreso than many other places I have visited, has grown accustomed to two cultures (Black & White) and pretty much one flavor of religion, Baptist (and the many Baptist-like variations). As the city changes and other religions move in and vie for power it will be very interesting to see how Memphis reacts.
I grew up seeing temples, mosques, cathedrals, churches and synagogues all sharing a neighborhood pretty much equally. I would love to see all these houses of worship sharing Memphis equally.
Ex-Pat
Radio Show Host, Bobby “don’t snitch” O’Jay Criticized, Told Listeners to Beware Calling Crime Stoppers
3/06 5:33 pm
MEMPHIS, TN – Police are still working around the clock to solve the Lester Street murders. Six people, including two children, were found dead inside a home at 722 Lester on Monday, March 3, 2008.
Investigators are begging the public to call with any information that could lead to the arrest of the killer or killers. However, a popular Memphis radio host is being criticized for discouraging listeners from calling in tips to Crime Stoppers and police.
“When you get it and get all that money at one time, the people in the hood are gonna know you got it and people start talking,” WDIA radio host Bobby O’Jay said on his morning radio show.
O’Jay told listeners to think twice about phoning in tips about the murders on Lester Street.
“People will hit you in the mouth for telling the smallest of things. ‘Man, I heard you say so-and-so and so-and-so.’ People will hurt you for telling the smallest of things, and nine times out of ten, people will be wondering where did that money come from? You can’t just say ‘I won it at the casino.’”
The Memphis city Council is offering a $30,000 reward for information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the person responsible for the Lester Street killings. They will give $5,000 for each victim.
Eyewitness News Everywhere asked Crime Stoppers Director Buddy Chapman and community leader Rev. Kenneth Whalum to sit down and listen to the comments said on Thursday morning’s show.
“I think that’s pretty good advice to encourage people, if they want to get that money, to be careful,” said Rev. Whalum.
“[O'Jay] started out, whether he denies it or not, saying ‘don’t call on this’, and then he evolved into good advice… ‘if you call, be cautious,’” said Chapman.
Chapman said the comment that disturbed him most, was when O’Jay talked about a call he received from one of his listeners.
“Bobby, I got to tell you,” the caller said. “I’ve known some people who have gotten so much money from Crime Stoppers and the people knew. They told it and talk too much.”
Chapman disagrees, stating, “In the 25-plus years Crime Stoppers has been in existence, we have not had anyone’s identity revealed or anyone suffered retribution for aiding us.”
Another listener called into the show, very upset with the remarks O’Jay made.
“I agree with you all of the time, but this morning, you were all out of left field,” the caller said. “That was pretty untactful what you said this morning about the Crime Stoppers.
O’Jay fired back at the woman saying, “What you said ma’am, is not what I said. What you said is adding a negativity to something I was being positive about this morning. It was negative what you said this morning. I’m through with you, goodbye.” O’Jay then hung up on the caller.
Rev. Whalum believes people should do the right thing, no matter what.
“I understand the principal people are gonna be nosy when someone has a lot of money… that’s beside the point. The major thing to me is that murder is a matter of the heart, just as morals are a matter of the heart and if a person knows the truth, a person is going to come forward regardless of the consequences,” Rev. Whalum said. “That’s what I would encourage. It’s morally right to share it with somebody.”
Everyone agrees the fear of retribution is understandable, but Chapman says there is still a way to protect yourself and help police.
“This was a horrible crime and whoever did this is an extraordinarily dangerous person. So I’d say, if you feel in danger, don’t get a number and collect a reward.”
O’Jay also said Thursday morning that he received a call from the Memphis Police Department, asking why he was discouraging people from calling in tips. Eyewitness News Everywhere asked O’Jay if he wanted to speak with us about the controversy, but he declined.
How does anyone expect anything to change when you have local black “folk heroes” like Bobby “No Snitch O’Jay bumpin’ his gums with the “don’t snitch” mantra, eh???
Well, if I misunderstood the statement appologise. I saw, “so seeing all the Baptist point of view and being educational yet disconerting, as a problem with Batpist or they were wrong.
I appreciate what you’re saying about the many “religions” being around and no problem. But, personally, I don’t believe in religion. I believe in the Lord. He is what is to be magnified, not a church house or people. I go to a “Mega church” and it could be construed as building oriented by the outsider’s eye. But, you see, most mega churches don’t get to be mega by being a church that is not Christ centered. I do want to say, there are quite a few exceptions though.
I just think a lot of time (the people I have met that are Catholic) tend to think Baptist are wrong or going the wrong direction in eternity. It is sad too because if you do as the Bible says and believe in Jesus and confess him as Lord and Savior then according to the Bible you are going to Heaven.
JUst was curious. If I misunderstood the statement then I am sorry.
Hey Cordova,
There are a number of African-Americans moving here from other places with enough sense to see and recognize knuckleheads (of any race) when we see them. You can’t tinkle on me and call it rain.
Those of us who have lived through crime much worse than this can share a lot of wisdom to those just experiencing it.
I survived the NYC crack wars of the 90’s. This is a walk in the park.
Change is slow, but you can’t deny it is happening.
Ex-Pat
What about the white man arrested for molesting his own grandchildren in Memphis? What about the woman who used a car wash pressure hose to discipline a three-year-old?
As far as the murder and maiming of the children that were in the Lester house, Jesus said it best about the ones that commited these horrible acts against the young children:
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”
Matthew 18:6
Jesus shows no mercy for child molesters/murderers!
Proud, my main reason for converting to Catholicism was to play basketball and to be a Boy Scout as these activities were not available through my church. Die hard Catholics can be something though!
Ex-Pat
Whether black or white I might add, good scripture RP!
If what you say is true, RP…GOOD!!!
I hope those butchers suffer before they die!
Thaddeus Matthews has posted 3 morgue pictures of one of the females on his website.
He is part of the problem – NO RESPECT, not even to the family.
He gets all of his morgue pictures of dead black people from Edmund Ford, Senior. This is sick.
So can us Baptist. ooops. Yes, I do know what you mean and I appreciate your reasoning on Catholicism too. NO harm intended there. Just had to ask that question. My ex was Catholic raised and I was Baptist raised. Of course I was NOT a Christian at all. I didn’t become a Christian until after we seperated. She still want listen to the truth of the Gospel. Sad for her too. My wife and I pray for her daily and her husband.
thanks for your honesty and candor there.
Don’t get it, do ya “Ex Pat”???
Most people don’t want to be in a “I survived” scenerio.
They simply don’t want to be anywhere around the violence & crime.
Why would they?
They just moved out of the city. … Scores of thousands of em … and, many more on the way out.
Wonder where hound dog was when Bruce Thompson was accepting bribes? Probably looking the other way because he’s white.
Hey John,
Your right. This is comming from me. You are very much correct. This country was built (or supposed to be built) on one of the basis of separating Chruch from State. People go to Church to praise God, not to praise man. And I see that in the Church (whether black or white). We need to take the time to pray first. Put God first and not man.
Where the Churches and Rev. Sharpton got it mixed up is that if they can get in the limelight, the bigger the Church gets and then they can have a Mega-Church on TV and accross cable. They get the publicity. Then when something happens in the community, they come out in droves, but will not stop to give the man on the corner a dollars so he can eat. Why, because there is no press to cover it.
All of us have pastors that are guilty of this, whether black or white. As I say, you have to look at the content and the character of a man than the skin tone. Skin tone can be decieving, whether black or white.
It’s too bad our laws don’t provide for executing a convicted murderer in the same manner they committed the murder.
“What about the white man arrested for molesting his own grandchildren in Memphis? What about the woman who used a car wash pressure hose to discipline a three-year-old?” TJ
Well, since you brought it up, let us talk about. What about it? Are they in jail? Did a gang of ignorant white people gather on a bus to protest their innocence and demand that justice be done by letting them go? Are white people sit around whining that the system is so unfair to them?
Things that make me go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Here is my recommended punishment:
For the white paw-paw, cut his penis off and then lock him away forever with no parole.
For the white lady, take away her child, put her in jail for at least 20, and forbid her from ever being alone with a child again.
So what do you think Turd Jam? What is your take on these crimes?
“Wonder where hound dog was when Bruce Thompson was accepting bribes? Probably looking the other way because he’s white.”
Well we know where you were. Sitting right here whining about News Hound.
Welll, now TJ, let’s not forget the Achitect and former councilman and chairman, To Marshall. Another white. I want to make a point here. If these guys are guilty then they too need to do the justifiable time for the crime. Just like a black person. NO way should they have time to raise their kids either LOL!!!! Same for them, go straight to Jail!
I see Fly has a-s-s-umed his news hound personality and is posting as CordovaHere and Anonymous as well. Must be hard sometimes keeping all those personalities straight.
And news hound, I see that you put the first names of the two adults arrested in the Cordova home invasion in all caps and added the word “blacks” to the headline. But that’s just the facts, right? I saw a picture of Ranget and he looks very mixed race to me, so maybe it was the white or Hispanic part of him that led him to crime.
You may kid yourself about your agenda, but you’re fooling no one here or anywhere else for that matter. Why don’t you go back and stalk Thaddeus Matthews some more and let the grown ups talk here?
PEB, good morning again my friend. VERY well put as usual.
“It’s too bad our laws don’t provide for executing a convicted murderer in the same manner they committed the murder.” Fly
NO DOUBT! A lot of people are saying that Dotson’s past shouldn’t be brought up. What’s hilarious is that his “past” are things he was currently doing. Hardly the definition of “past.”
Nobody deserves to die at the hands of another.
But why does one expect to be safe and sound when their own behaviors cause for harm to come their way?
I see Fly has a-s-s-umed his news hound personality and is posting as CordovaHere and Anonymous as well. Must be hard sometimes keeping all those personalities straight.
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And you are about as annoying as this individual with your constant posts and updates about him. Seriously, takes PEB’s advice, TJ, and ignore it. Rise above it.
DANG! it is afternoon. Now momma came home and I gotta git off here and go do her honey do list. She’s watching me!!! mean ole woman LOL
Hey peeps,
How about dat ole Bobby “Do Not Snitch” O’Jay???
Hey Cordova,
Please, do us all a favor, MOVE. Empty the city, but do it quietly. Complaining and staying just makes the re-population effort that much more unpleasant.
With starting houses in NYC, L. A., Atlanta and Chicago starting out at 1/4 million there will be many who will come here and actually enjoy this city, I know I do. I have come to love this town with all its blemishes and quirks, it’s affordable, culturally rich, and ripe for new blood ready and willing to make changes. Plus, and this is a big plus, you can even get a house WITH A BASEMENT! For a northerner do you realize how precious this is?
Ex-Pat <—- Even a Grizz Season Ticket Holder
PEB said: “All of us have pastors that are guilty of this, whether black or white. As I say, you have to look at the content and the character of a man than the skin tone. Skin tone can be decieving, whether black or white.”
You are so correct, PEB. Unscrupulous people come in all sha*pes, sizes, genders and colors. Unfortunately, these unscrupulous people are very clever at manipulating people to achieve their desires, and pretending to be a person of the cloth makes it too easy for them to feed their greed.
ExPat,
I think I just fell in love with you.
“and ripe for new blood”
back at ex pat:
It’s always ready for new blood, but it won’t be mine.
Your’s perhaps???
sTOP IT NOW.
cAN’T WE ALL GET ALONG?
Thanks, Ex-Pat, for reminding us about the good in our city. The arts, parks, diversity, history, music, hospitality, and so on. This city has a lot more going for it than our native-born citizens sometimes give us credit for.
ms. whiting,
you are so right, we need to all learn to get along. most of the people of memphis are good people, and by working together we can hopefully start making a difference.as horrible as these killings are, it does seem to be bringing blacks and whites together for the common good.
For those with that fortress mentality, Tipton county welcomes you! Leave Memphis to those with the fortitude and guts to make it a great place to be (again), and oh yes, don’t bother working here either. You don’t want to live here, don’t contradict yourself and draw a paycheck from here.
The Ex-Pat-Carpet-bagging-Grizzlie-Season-Ticket-GPAC-Contributor-And-Now-Proud-Memphian
My take? Anyone who lacks the guts to use a name for himself really has nothing to say. The fact of the matter is, studies show castration does not work. The sexual deviant uses something in place of his detached instrument.
But if you’re simply anonymous, no one can steal your identity and attribute offensive statements to you. This site asks people to use an honor code, but when someone refuses to honor the code, it ruins it for all of us.
The death penalty works great.
O% recidivation rate, no repeat offenders.
Yea … like “TJ” isn’t as anonymous, as anonymous is.
Large breaaaaak, puhleeeze!
Those are my real initials. I’m not like you Fly; I have no problem with taking criticidm for my thoughts. Also, you blithering idiot, did you know that, over the history of the death penalty in this country, somewhere between 3,000 and 3,500 INNOCENT people have been wrongfully executed? I’m sorry…you don’t “know” much of anything.
Ex-Pat, the grizzlies suck!
G. W. Bush and Bill Clinton somehow ended up at the same barbershop. As they sat there, each being worked on by a different barber, not a word was spoken.
The barbers were both afraid to start a conversation, for fear it would turn to politics. As the barbers finished their shaves, the one who had Clinton in his chair reached for the after shave.
Clinton was quick to stop him saying, ‘No thanks, my wife Hillary will smell that and think I’ve been in a whorehouse.’
The second barber turned to Bush and said, ‘How about you?’Bush replied, ‘Go ahead, my wife doesn’t know what the inside of a whorehouse smells like.’
Give him a medal…he is so honorable and uses his initials but berates others for using anonymous. His initials are as anonymous as Anonymous. Just a hypocritical dummy!
Signed,
TechJas
At TJ:
Did you pull that number out of the same dark, rancid smelling place you retrieve most of your information from??
I agree with TJ on some issues, but here’s some of the ways I differ from him: I do not support Herenton; I’m not a Christian; I’m totally against the death penalty, even for the monsters who commited the Lester St. killings; and I’m white.
“The fact of the matter is, studies show castration does not work. The sexual deviant uses something in place of his detached instrument.”
Who cares if it doesn’t work? Sexual perverts CANNOT BE REHABILITATED anyway. He deserves to not have a penis anymore for using it messing with children…that is JUSTICE. Plus, if you put him in prison for life, then we won’t have to worry about him using “something in place of his detached instrument.”
T.J., re the Grizz, if enough Memphis people could get together to buy the Grizzlies from Heisley, maybe the team could be turned around. It’s strictly business to Heisley and he has no interest in this community, and so now he’s dumping players to make the payroll smaller and the team easier to sell. I wish someone in this community would buy. Fred Smith could do it easy.
And also, I think it’s been all downhill for the Grizz since we traded Shane Battier. Not only was he a very good player, but he was a great citizen of this community. I know several people who quit going to games because they were mad about Battier being traded.
FYI, castration is removal of the testicles, not the penis.
No more boners!
Sorry to hear that for you, Fly!
Postmortem photos draw ire
2:33 p.m., March 7, 2008
As public attention to the Lester Street killings remained intense today, blogger Thaddeus Matthews posted three postmortem photographs of one of the victims, 22-year-old Shindri “Moosey” Roberson.
The photographs show Roberson’s face, eyes open, and what appear to be three gunshot wounds to her legs.
“Some of you will be offended by the posting of these pictures, but remember the shocking expression of death on the face of Shindri Roberson could be on your face this time tomorrow on this site,” Matthews wrote, describing Memphis as “the most dangerous place in the country.”
Matthews said today he entered N.J. Ford and Sons Funeral Home with permission but did not obtain authorization to photograph Roberson’s body.
“You don’t get permission to do everything you do, right?” Matthews asked a reporter. “You just go after the story. That’s what I did. My site is controversial in that I do controversial things, but I think the community needs to know how these people died.”
Roberson’s sister, Cheryl Green, screamed when told photographs of her sister’s body were posted online. “Why did he do that? That’s my sister! That’s my sister!” Green said, crying. “I’m mad as hell.”
The photographs sparked similar outrage in Shelby County Mayor A C Wharton. “While I recognize the broad freedoms our Constitution and laws grant representatives of the press and media, and while I will not substitute my judgment for theirs, I want all to know that Shelby County government does not approve of the display of the photos,” Wharton said in a statement.
This is not the first time Matthews has posted postmortem photographs on his blog. The Roberson photographs have news value because they illustrate the brutality of killers still on the loose, the blogger said.
“The family may be upset, but what serves the greater need — the family not being upset or the community being alerted to how these people died?” Matthews said. “It was not to disrespect the dead but to ensure that those who are alive stay alive.”
On the Grizzlies
They may suck, for now, but as someone who has grown up with NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL teams I can honestly say you’re better off for having them, than not having them. I’ve been a Mets fan through good years and bad, but nothing, and I mean nothing, beats the fun of going to a MLB game. same with the Grizzlies. Maybe taking a kid to a game, rather than complaining and moaning on message boards will help steer his life in a good direction. My fondest memories of my father are the times we sat in the bleachers at Shea stadium on saturdays, eating dogs and watching the Mets lose. This is where men bonded, over baseball, beer and hotdogs, and sadly a lot of this has been lost on the youth of today. I love the fact that the Grizzlies are here, and that there are so many kids at the games, this will eventually be a good thing as they grow older.
Having little to no experience with this I can understand the apathy a lot of Memphians have, but for those of us who have been lifelong supporters of teams, win or lose, the Grizzlies are just fine.
Take a kid to a game!
Ex-Pat
At Anonymous:
That sounds good, but I doubt it will happen.
At Fly:
Unlike you, I have several degrees; one of which is in criminal justice. I exstensively studied the death penalty, its effects, deterrent capacity, etc. The fact of the matter is, castration is removal of all sexual organs, not a part of them.
And Fly, I thought you’d grown up and decided not to post under someone else’s name.
ALL THIS TALK IS MAKING MY NIPPLES HARS..
HARD!!
HARD
I love college basketball and professional football but never have been able to get into the NBA. I’ve gone to a couple of Grizz games but with limited free time I just can’t get into following them full time. I agree that it’s better to have them here than not, but I just wish a local ownership group with something at stake would get involved and make the Grizzlies all they can possibly be.
Postmortem photos draw ire
By Trevor Aaronson (Contact)
Originally published 02:33 p.m., March 7, 2008
Updated 02:33 p.m., March 7, 2008
As public attention to the Lester Street killings remained intense today, blogger Thaddeus Matthews posted three postmortem photographs of one of the victims, 22-year-old Shindri “Moosey” Roberson.
The photographs show Roberson’s face, eyes open, and what appear to be three gunshot wounds to her legs.
“Some of you will be offended by the posting of these pictures, but remember the shocking expression of death on the face of Shindri Roberson could be on your face this time tomorrow on this site,” Matthews wrote, describing Memphis as “the most dangerous place in the country.”
Matthews said today he entered N.J. Ford and Sons Funeral Home with permission but did not obtain authorization to photograph Roberson’s body.
“You don’t get permission to do everything you do, right?” Matthews asked a reporter. “You just go after the story. That’s what I did. My site is controversial in that I do controversial things, but I think the community needs to know how these people died.”
Roberson’s sister, Cheryl Green, screamed when told photographs of her sister’s body were posted online. “Why did he do that? That’s my sister! That’s my sister!” Green said, crying. “I’m mad as hell.”
The photographs sparked similar outrage in Shelby County Mayor A C Wharton. “While I recognize the broad freedoms our Constitution and laws grant representatives of the press and media, and while I will not substitute my judgment for theirs, I want all to know that Shelby County government does not approve of the display of the photos,” Wharton said in a statement.
This is not the first time Matthews has posted postmortem photographs on his blog. The Roberson photographs have news value because they illustrate the brutality of killers still on the loose, the blogger said.
“The family may be upset, but what serves the greater need — the family not being upset or the community being alerted to how these people died?” Matthews said. “It was not to disrespect the dead but to ensure that those who are alive stay alive.”
“I have several degrees; one of which is in criminal justice. I exstensively studied the death penalty, its effects, deterrent capacity, etc.”
Who gives a cornbread damn, Turd Jam? You are still an idiot. Can’t you read? We don’t care if it works or not. It’s not about rehabilitation – sex perverts can’t be fixed. It is about punishment, stupid.
Kind of a shame that this is what is viewed as news these days. Kinda reminds you of those old wild west photos of dead crinimals.
Ex-Pat
1. “For the white paw-paw, cut his penis off and then lock him away forever with no parole.”
2. “The fact of the matter is, studies show castration does not work.” TJ, with many, many, many degrees who has studied extensively on the subject……yeah right!
3. “FYI, castration is removal of the testicles, not the penis.”
TJ, YOU NEED TO GET YOURSELF BETTER EDUCATED. LOL.
Man, it’s really coming down out there! Looks like it’s finally starting to stick on the ground, too.
Coming down here on this site pretty hard too, and it’s definitely sticking!
Ex-Pat
LOL Ex-Pat. And the real TJ is not here to defend himself, looks like.
SNOW ICE CREAM
I HATE TELEMARKETERS!!!!
Can someone please tell me where I can find that story on Bobby O’Jay? I want to read it and confirm it before I comment on it. Sorry guys, looks like Denver has your weather and Memphis has ours.
Here ya go, PEB:
http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=f96e8c16-fe2d-4929-a44b-43b0c217bd31
Thank you Jack.
I’ve got a hard-on for Thaddeus Matthews.
See, this is what I am talking about. People are listening to these type of people and the stupidity that spews out of thier mouth kills me. He has the number 1 talk radio show in the African American homes. This is the kinda old stuff that is killing the community as a whole. I am African American, and to me, he is no better than Rush Limbaugh.
If there are any African Americans reading this read this part. The Caucasian community has a RIGHT to complain! They want change but my brothers and sisters want the same ole stuff. And you are getting the same ole results. That was idioic statement what he said. You have to understand this. If you want change in your community, you have to STAND FOR SOMETHING OR YOU WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING!
But I guess you have been falling for anything because you still have your mayor. This is sad!
This is good snuggling weather
I challenge all African Americans not to listen to him when he is on the radio, and you know, in my opinion Bev Johnson to if she is still there. I knew that he was still on the radio. It is time for African Americans to come to a point that you don’t listen to this (and I said it) communist type of thinking.
In order to get something, you have to get along with everyone. You don’t have to like all people, but you do have to RESPECT each other no matter what color they are. Bobby O’Jay, the mayor, the City Council, the Police Chief, The Fire Chief, The Board of Education, none of them repect you.
You’re welcome, PEB. I think O’jay has been backpeddling and saying that his comments were taken out of context. But whoever does have information on this case is probably very scared to come forward and may have a criminal record also. I’d really love for there to be an arrest/s soon.
Hey PEB, I have to again agree. Love that line on standing too.
I went to the site and just read the story on OJ. It is something that the leaders or personalites in Memphis can perpetuate these lies that folks try to keep alive. I often, honestly wonder if they do this to keep people needing them. You know, kind of like Communism creates a need in the people so that they woould never rise up against the bad guys for fear of their needs not being met. Is that weird? I think you know what I am trying to say….
Yep, Proud, I understand fully. You know what I think. The reason why they do that is two fold. One is because they don’t read. They take what is said and since “Bobby O’Jay said it”, it is true. That stuff empowers people like Bobby O’Jay, and he really thinks that he is a demogod or something. If people just used the internet for reading stuff to get the whole picture, and then form an opinion, people like the mayor and Bobby O’Jay would not have a platform to stand on.
Another thing is change. People are afraid of change. If they changed their thinking, they will be ok. There is a book that has been out for at least 7 years called, “Who Moved My Cheese.” I read that book, took me a better part of a afternoon. When I was done, it changed my thinking about a lot of things. One reason why I moved is because I needed to change my friends. Once I changed friends, my attitude changed. Once my attitude changed, my finaces increased and so on and so on.
People have to stop depending on the media as far as what they say and research what is said, before forming an opinion.
Is is snowing there? Wow, it is about 50 degrees and sunshine in the Mile-High!
You are soooo correct there on the friends. When I was young I hung out with rednecks and started getting the same thinking and then of course did all the redneck stuff. You’ve heard all that. Anyway, you just got to start thinking for yourself instead of relying on anyone to “tell you the truth”. Because they don’t. The media has a BIG agenda and so do these so called preachers and stuff. They keep a person down and have them relying on them. Look at old Castro, how long has been in power? All by way of programming people to believe they need him to survive.
I really appreciate the honesty of you and some others. even when a couple of people don’t agree totally you have to respect a view. The respect thing is what I have been saying too. I can’t expect anyone to respect me if I don’t first show respect and then earn it. By way of actions and follow through on promises and such. It’s called character.
Thanks my friend!
Yeah, it is snowing like crazy man. brrr, to me it’s cold in the 3